I ordered some stuff last week and only paid for ground and the woman working said it would be like $40 to get here before christmas,and I know it takes even longer for alaska which is where I am and it got here yesterday marked rush and 2 day mail.I have had some great service before but this was the best even though it might have been because i paid a couple extra bucks to be a club member but I was never told I would get quiker shipping.I ordered a kinetic 50 just because they had easy pay on it,it has one ball link broken which wasnt towers fault and I have spares -MERRY CHRISTMAS