I seen some simulators at hobbyhparts. whats the difference with the two?i see one ic 4ch the other is 6ch are they both full version etc?which one should iget?

http://www.hobbypartz.com/60p-dyu-1002.html
http://www.hobbypartz.com/e4chflsitrki.html

Both of those are extremely inexpensive! Ihave never used or seen either, so Icould not say if they are decent. Irun the RealFlight G4.5 sim, and it is simply amazing (though at a much higher cost).

edit: typo

The controller for the 6ch one would probably more closely match a real RC heli TX in terms of functions. I think I have the FMS software (though it might be a little older version than what those come with) and doesn't come close to RealFlight. I mean, it works and will help you a little with basics like orientation but it's not very realistic flying so you don't really get the "feel" which is important with helis.

I think the software can be downloaded free from the fms website, all you're really paying for is the controller.

u mean all simulators dont come close to realflight or just this one?
both have the same software?

I was just referring to that one, FMS, not coming close to RealFlight. Those are the only two I've tried (actually, there's one other that my cousins have but I can't remember which one it was).

From what I've heard Phoenix is comparable to (some would say better than) RealFlight. http://www.phoenix-sim.com

RealFlight and Phoenix I think are the two most expensive ones but they're they set the standard by which all others are judged. A less expensive alternative that seems to be decent from what I hear is Clear View, but it doesn't include a controller. You can use it with a standard game controller or if you have a TX with a trainer port you can buy a USB interface for it. In terms of realism I think it falls somewhere between FSM and RealFlight/Phoenix http://rcflightsim.com/

what i dont get is how come the 6ch is cheaper?
Also can i use any controller with any software. ie. FMScontroller with phoenix software?

just different brands. I wouldn't worry about it.

I can't give you an absolute "yes" because you never know what else might be out there, but in most cases I think you'll be able to. The USB controllers will probably just show up as a joystick/game controller and most sims will let you set it up as your controller.

RealFlight comes with it's own controller so you don't have to worry about it if you don't want to. The controller also acts as a copy protection dongle so it always has to be connected when using the program, even if you use another controller. It comes with cables to connect your own TX through the controller if you want to use your TX instead, or you can select any other joystick/controller you have connected to your computer.

Phoenix looks like it comes with a USB adapter that will let you connect any JR or Spektrum radio if you already have one. Horizon Hobby also has a package that includes a Spektrum DX5e TX for $45 more.

I think Clear View should work with just about anything that you can connect through USB, including the dedicated controllers you linked earlier or a real TX connected with a USB adapter (you can find adapters all over) it just might require a little more setup to get them talking to each other. The Clear View website actually recommends the 4ch esky controller "for best results". You can find a bunch of adapters here: http://www.allerc.com/index.php?cPath=91

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I'm not familiar with reflex, but I think a guy I know is using it an likes it.

Oh, FS One is the one that my cousins have, it comes with a controller. I didn't like it as much as RealFlight but I didn't think it was bad.


Yes, I would suggest a 6ch controller, will be a better match to flying real models.


Why am I the only one answering these questions? I know there are other people here who have used various sims and are probably more qualified than me, where are you guys!?


You should probably do a search here, I think many of these sims have been discussed a few times here already.

Honestly I would stay away from cheapo sims and go ahead and invest in Realflight. Get the new G5 that just came out. You will not regret it. It may be expensive up front but will save you countless crashes in the future. And you get a high quality controller, not some cheap thing that will eventually break or stop working.

If you are looking at simulators for helicopters then there is only one direction to go at the moment.....Phoenix.

It is far cheaper than Realflight and far, far better judging by all the converts that have dumped Realflight.

Apart from being an excellent sim that runs much easier on less than optimum computers, Phoenix is also renown for their excellent customer service and commitment to give free upgrades to all purchasers.

After Phoenix, Reflex would be the next best, Realflight would be a distant third closely followed by Aerofly Pro Deluxe (but aerofly is excellent for fixed wing)