I have a AR9100 and I have had to re bind it twice now for no reason and I could never get the fail safe positions to work. I had it turned on a few days ago and it worked fine today I can even get it to bind has anyone else ever had this happen?
Maybe I am doing something wrong, I am using two 3300 nickel metal batteries, everything is charged, I am not sure whats going on. I have had 19 flights on this jet with no problems other than the odd binding issue between the odd flights and now not being able to bind it at all. Can anyone share any light on this?

Here are the first things I check when I can't bind or think I lost bind:

1. Am I putting the bind plug into the correct port?

2. Do I have the correct model pulled up on the tx. If yes then have I accidently made a copy and selected the wrong version.


Model match feature will act like you lost bind.

Also make sure tx comes on first and you get the blue light.

Another item to remember, if you leave the bind plug in and the turn the model off and back on it will be looking to rebind again. Guess how many times I've done that one??


I have made all of these mistakes, maybe you have too.

I have not changed anything on my transmitter or plane between the times I have turned it on and it does not come one. I am using a cap9 and the Spektrum transmitting module. The other thing it does is operate many different receivers even with different model memory, is this right if you are using the Cap9 and the Spektrum module?

OK I just got it to bind after the 5th or 6th time, two of the satellite receivers are flashing is that normal? I don't know if I should trust this thing.

you don't have model match with a module based system so yes your TX will operate any receiver that it is bound to regardless of model selected................

all receiver lights (satellites too) should be solid when bound.

other then when binding, it doesn't matter which you turn on first, TX or RX, makes no difference.

Get rid of it....FASST

After cycling it all the lights are on and it works fine, Yeah, I really want to get the Fasst system, thats next on the list.
I am just trying to get a feel for this system, if its normal for this to happen to need rebinding that one thing, its another if I am the only one having this problem.

no i've known quiet a few spektrum systems that have had issues acquiring and/or keeping bind, i personally won't fly a spektrum branded system as i've been at the sticks with two planes of other modelers when they lost all control and flew away, one of them circled the field for several minuets and i never regained any control at all and it never failsafed. i've never had a problem with the JR branded DSM system.

You haven't heard of them losing bind once it up and running have you?

yes, read the previous post, i was adding to it when you posted.

Geezz maybe time to switch now

i don't get in the middle of the JR/Futaba war that most every thread turns into on here (this one even has one of those posts already) but i've had FASST systems fly away too, Futaba admitted it was a problem with the system when it was returned to them for a checkup, they only replaced the receiver.........

Yeah I am not looking for this to turn into one of those threads either, I am just trying to find out if what I am experiencing is normal and trust worthy that's all
There have been lost of people using this system with no problems, myself included. I have had years worth of flights with this and not lost a plane or had one lock out, this just seems a little odd to me

Simply send it back to Horizon, it is faulty.

I had both JR and Spektrum 9 channel recievers that refused point blank to bind at all, both had several flights on them, no problem until a rebind attempt.

They will replace it for you.

I had issues with binding and un-acceptable reception (using the flight log) with a AR9100 and X9303. After i removed one of the satellite receivers the issues went away (frame loss counts went from 500+ to less than 50 on the other remote Rx's). I put the removed satellite on another AR9000 rx and had the exact same issue with that rx. So i concluded that the remote RX was bad..

That's interesting we had three flights, on the "R" satellite I was getting 941 every flight, "A" reading anywhere from 0 to 76, and "B" reading 0 to 56, "F" and "H" always reading 0 what are your thoughts on these numbers?

Thats about like what i was getting when i was having my issues. I was getting acceptable on all but 1 of them and it was WAY off base. Personally I like to see all of my frame #'s within 10-20% of each other. Before removing the faulty satellite, i was getting 100-300 on one or 2, and 500+ on the others, and this was after repositioning the satellites 3 times (and all 4 satellites and the rx were brand new). I'm also pretty sure the satellite i had issues with was plugged into the "R" port and when i removed it, they were all within a few numbers of each other.

now that particular plane doesn't have any frame counts over 50, and each of the rx is withing 10% or less to the other 3 (still haven't re-installed a 4th one, as it works well this way).

So I just turned it on and checked it, and it read 941 right away, it was only on a few seconds not even flown, then I tried another satellite receiver in R port and it read 941 also, your thoughts?

I just unplugged it from "R" and put it into "L" and now "L" is reading 941. I tried two receivers and they both read the same.

Peg, you need to pull the receiver and send it in. there is a problem I think. No receiver channel should ever read anything other than zero right after Link up..

Just for grins, change antenna wires to new wires ,move your transmitter about 10 feet away and link up. Let us know what happens with the Left and right channels there to see if you still get 941 or something like that...

If you get anything the same like you saw before with the transmitter 10 feet away, you have something bad.

Make sure your module is fully seated.. It probably is or all your numbers would be bad..

Make sure your antenna wires are changed if needed and good. thats some strange readings... If the external channels are reading something other than zero at startup, I would believe the receiver has gone bad..

JR is excellent about replacing or repairing something thats bad..

It did not matter what I tried, both L and R were reading 941 I tried ever combination and always read 941, the problem must be in the receiver

you need to ck the Little wires from the main bus ( ar9100 ) to the satellites.and some time the problem in the radio itself . if you have any radio to swap it is worth a ck. i am using 4 - jr 10x converted to spectrum,
2 - ar9100 , and several ar 9000 , etc. on my bobcat 200 + flight with no problems . very low reading on satellite. before i install the system in expensive plan i install the exact sys. ( include btt, etc , ) in a trainer,
do at least 10 flights , write down a log for each flight the # on each satellite . if everything to my satisfactory , i install in my jets. thats a Little insurance .

Well I have tried everything and still the same results I tried my carbon safe receiver and all works well, I will sent this off to Horizon.

where you using the same satellite RX each time when you swapped between L and R, etc or did you try different satellites

I tried different satellites from all of my other 7 channel receivers, still no luck with the 941 number