Hey everyone has anyone flown both? I was orig going to go with skymaster but started looking around and reading people having good luck with the FEJ.
How are FEJs newest versions of the 1/6 scale f-16?
Figured for the price save it couldn't hurt to ask around

Chevy vs. Ford, man.

Use the search function, this has been beaten to death here, more than once.

Wish people would stop with the search function, I try that thing all the time it's useless. I will try again[:@]

A legitimate question as indications are that FEJ of recent vintage is not the same as FEJ of early models, so a search may bring up old information that is no longer valid. I have not seen anyone on here that has tried a 1/6 FEJ F-16, but I may have missed it. Rex is the guy to talk to about about the 1/5.5 FEJ F-16...

Bob

I have know 5 people with 6 Fly Eagles as one person tried two of them. Every one of them suffered structural failure and crashed within the first 13 flights. The word record in south Florida is 12 flights until severe structural failure. Everyone shows how great they look out of the box but I would like to see some post from someone who has 50 or 100 flights on one.

hmmm now that dont sound good, to much money to worry about something like that.

exactly... I hate to see lost money. I hear people say but it was a cheap plane, I say you lost all that electronics and damage to the turbine isn't cheap either...
decide for yourself but do a lot of research and I am sure you will go another route

I don't have any direct knowledge on FEJ. However, since they are still in business, I assume they cant all be that bad..

Use Google to search... type "site:rcuniverse.com rcuniverse fly eagle jet" without quotes

I've seen many threads on RCU over the years of "top name" jets having structural failures in less flights than 12 or 13 even the beloved BVM jets. Of course the post crash Monday morning quarterbacking of the "top name" jets in the thread always blames something besides piss poor QC by the "top name" company. I'll bet if this thread stays alive long enough there will be many people with as many flights as the "top name" jets.

I had that same decision in january, which kit to go with.  After reading through a lot of thread and i mean a lot [X(], i have decided on fej jets for my self.   if you read all companies have there problems.

FEJ  has appreared to gotten better & better and there customer services is great. 

Slow learner ?

and, the point is....what? That because someone, somewhere, lost a BVM product on flight 12 that the OP should buy an FEJ? Is it your assertion that the "top name" brands (who became "top name" for a reason) have had an occasional failure and that's logic enough to go with a brand notorious for failures? Looking at the OP, the question had nothing to do with BVM. It was whether FEJ's products are holding up so that he could choose between them or SM.

Maybe. That's an expensive gamble though, risking all of the on-board equipment (4K and up) plus the time involved to install it rather than paying the incremental $$ up front for a more reliable brand.

Amen!

If you don't have an answer or opinion on the question, just move on quietly! Why pipe up if you don't want to engage in the discussion? If the topic has been discussed before, it's off-limits now?? This 'search function' reply is really tired....

In the RC community it's not always the best that gets to be "top name" it's monkey see monkey do that makes it "top name". My point is, more competition is better. If we have a company willing to listen and learn like FEJ as noted by the major changes they have made to become better, then we should be working on getting them up there with the rest so they all have to compete. Competition between companies means better prices for consumers. I just don't think many in the RC world understand the basics of economics. Then there is the ALWAYS present BIAS that is rampant in the RC community, which once again leads back to either a lack of understanding of economics, or just a desire to keep all the toys to themselves.

In your case I'm not sure which it is, but highhorse fits well.

Try taking your own advise - where is your input on the subject?

Not necessarily, but here's a thought. Every time someone wants to be spoon-fed the 411 on an old subject, lets not rehash a 40 page thread that ended in product bashing, bad information and opinions from some people who don't have any first-hand information on the subject or products at all.


FenderBean,
There is no one answer to your question. All companies have teething problems with every product. Some are more experienced and skilled at honing in on a great product faster than others. Some get it right before releasing a product, some don't. Some make changes to a particular airframe, some cut their losses and quit producing a bad design or airframe. The people who end up with these airframes buy them cheap down the road, then bash a manufacturers entire line because they got burned due to bad design, poor workmanship from the factory, bad workmanship from the builder, sometimes both. Airframes sometimes get overstressed, overpowered, take hard landings, etc. then fail in flight. Then comes the "XYZ manufacturer sucks" threads, brimming with the same old participants slugging it out til the mods "clean" the thread or just remove it.

If you wanna buy cheap, search out the exact plane you want to buy, as I have seen you do in the F16 thread. Read up on specific airframes you're interested in, and pick the one that seems the best choice to you. Be prepared to go through the entire plane, scrutinizing the build, glue joints, incidences and recommended setups. Use due dilligence, and you'll likely be fine with whatever you pick.

If you are willing to spend more up front, buy from one of several proven, reliable manufacturers that have great reputations. There are several of them. My favorite in this catagory is BVM. You will get a plane that is truly "Engineered for success", parts are a phone call away as is technical support and field rep assistance.

I'm building my first Fly Eagle jet right now. It has been well built, but there are still things that in my opinion that need to be changed, beefed up, etc. I can't comment on on it further until its flying, and I see how it does.

Sorry if the "use the search function" reply seemed trite, but sometimes it fits. Pitting XYZ vs. PDQ in a thread title is usually asking for a flame war. Sorry, but it gets old, and is the reason so many knowlegeable people have stopped posting on this forum.

Good Luck in picking something out,
Rusty

Ahh no worries, I think being able to find things without asking is great, its just this forums search function is pretty useless.
I like to discuss things with people though on certain things, stuff always changes just like I am hearing that the newer stuff FEJ is making is better quality and stuff like that.
That tells me they care about the product and their name, which is what any really good company should do.

I had this all locked down, until I got a super deal on a large turbine, so I had to get a bigger bird, Sorry Yellow A/C nothing personal
Sometimes I over do with the research before I buy something, guess thats the alpha male wanting nothing but the best

I have well over 100 flights on my 1/8 FEJ F-16 and its going on 3 years now. There airframe looks exactly the same (other than the dings I've put in it myself) since I bought it. The only problem I ever had was the gear cylinders leaking. That was fixed with a little teflon tape under the O-rings. I did change out the pipe to a Tams though. I still don't trust their pipes.

Andy

Fender,


LOL, no worries at all! I probably field 10-15 phone calls per week and who-knows-how-many emails from prospective customers. Some buy, some don't. Some are even discouraged to buy if I think I would be doing them a disservice by selling them a certain product. You've got to be happy with what you get, and that's your responsibility to yourself as the buyer.

Believe me, my first post in this thread was in defense of your being able to get your questions answered without the haughty comebacks you get in here sometimes. Sometimes, people act like they're not aware of their right to NOT comment if they don't want to...

Now that makes no sense, but it does read like a haughty comment.

You're 0 fer 2 Shaun. Might want to consider that "move along quietly" option...

yeah I never understood why people have to flame on a public forum, some people live on these things and I guess they start to think its their turf.

That's funny responded to a perceived haughty comment with a haughty comment............LOL.......Love RCU

Thank You, Thank you very much. I'll be here all week!

Its all in good fun. Shaun and I are BFF's from back on Bob Parks jet list, hashin' it out over fan swept areas on our ICDF's...

Deeyyyaaammm...now there's a throwback name drop "Bob Parks List". I wonder how many folks remember that list? Awesome source of info.

Pre - RC Online, baby! Them were the days!

Text only, boss would walk by our cubicles and think we were actually working on something important!

See you at MAB, Buck. Hopefully with my *ahem* vastly inferior, never shoulda bought it, 1:5 FEJ Sabre.

Rusty