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Old 10-23-2011, 09:33 AM
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Let's not ruin John's thread over what I may or may not power the Sabre with

Nice job on the Sabre Greg.

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I had the opportunity to fly Steve Burnett's newly acquired F-Fo. What a rush!! Steve put a Jet Central Cheetah in it, more than enough power! Best part is it flies great from the local grass field! I may have to go dust off the old BVM owned Blue Angel. They are not cheap, nor are they ARF, but it is a quality machine. The BV F-4 is a real man's plane.

Get the build going John!
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The rest of the story!! Saturday Dustin did the Maiden after a few owners and my Phase 1 thru 4 inspection and repair. A low time BVM F4, but not flown in a few years. After a perfect take off and great flight, ( Anyone who has seen Dustin Fly can attest to his skills), time to land, Gear Down and NO LEFT MAIN!!!!!! After every manuever in the book, and low fuel light blinking, time to land. With only the Nose Gear and Right Main down, A perfect landing with the engine shut down and NOT A SCRATCH . UNBELEIVEABLE!!!!!! I can't even begin put into words what an incredible stick Dustin is.. Two more flights today to finalize trims and systems and I'm ready for many sorties . I cannot begin to express my appreciation to Dustin.. I can say without reservation, I Fly BVM
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Looking forward to your build John. Can't go wrong with a BVM product! Scott
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Looking forward to your build John. Can't go wrong with a BVM product! Scott
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Old 10-23-2011, 09:13 PM
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Fellas,

I found the pics from my F-4 ride last summer. 1300+ hours in F-16s and that 1.2 in the F-4 sticks cleanly in the front of my mind.

Kelly, it looks like JR will need those videos if you're still up for it.

Dave

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Well, we can't have Ozie running around with the only "mans plane" at the field....hard enough with the endless "I'm a pilot" stories....time to get serious about the F100....
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Well, we can't have Ozie running around with the only ''mans plane'' at the field....hard enough with the endless ''I'm a pilot'' stories....time to get serious about the F100....
The F-100 is heavy metal and a great plane, but make no mistake the F-4 separates the men from the boys.....

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haaaaa haaaaaaaa........I couldn't resist.......(think full metal jacket).......Get some!!!! Get Some!!!!!....
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYLPoTNnKAk[/youtube]


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Well, we can't have Ozie running around with the only ''mans plane'' at the field....hard enough with the endless ''I'm a pilot'' stories....time to get serious about the F100....
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Back from I-Hobbby and ready to begin. Ozie's Phantom should be here today I am guessing. Have the parts lits from the one and only Patty at BVM and the extra new parts are on the way. Look for it to begin next week!

We will be using the F-100 hardware (bolts and aluminum nuts) to hold the wings on.
We will be using the F-100/Super Bandit carbon horns to hinge the flaps and ailerons.
We will be working Ad Clark's thrust line mod for maximum performance (not that any more is needed).
We will be commiting suicide once we get the plane framed!!!!

As DR stated, this is the one that separates the men from the boys!!

Stay tuned!!!

Ozie, get your dad an account on here and he can throw in an occassional Rhino flying fact durign teh build. What better than to get some real information on flying the best damned fighter ever built!!!!!
Old 10-24-2011, 06:21 AM
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We will get some pictures up by late in the week as the shop begins to transform into the Phantom world. You hang on to those pictures DR. Not many around looking like that anymore.
Old 10-24-2011, 07:15 AM
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The Phantom is the airplane I grew up with.. Countless years watching them in the FCLP pattern at NAS Miramar until the Turkey showed up and sent most of them to the boneyard.
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Buck, Ozie played that for me at BITW. That song is so damned true. I swear I lived that song for 20 fricken years!!!!!
Old 10-24-2011, 08:16 AM
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haaa haaaa I hear ya amigo....there are some real (insert pix below) out there!!!! LMAO

zipper suited sun gods!!!
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now crack open that box o' bits and let's see a "no-merde" build thread
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Less talk, more rock! Can't wait to follow along on this one. Thanks in advance for sharing.
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John, Go for it.Already lot's of cool pic's and a video.Look forward to seeing the build.
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Phantom arrived today. It is out of the box and ready to head to the basement. Alot of work ahead of me. We will begin aroud Thursday I am going to guess.

Stay tuned and some one give me the number of a good Phsyciatrist!!! What in the hell was I thinking.
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good dude...little fingers

get in there Tiger!!!!

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Phantom arrived today. It is out of the box and ready to head to the basement. Alot of work ahead of me. We will begin aroud Thursday I am going to guess.

Stay tuned and some one give me the number of a good Phsyciatrist!!! What in the hell was I thinking.
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We will be using the F-100/Super Bandit carbon horns to hinge the flaps and ailerons.
Good call. This is the strongest and most accurate hinge system in the business. Tedious to install, but well worth the effort..

Man am I am getting a urge to buy an F4 now.. [>:] You have me feeling my Hun's a bit girly.

Roger
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Gents,

John asked me to get the old man an account so he can share full scale F-4 stories. He wasn't real interested in all that, but he passed me a series of stories to share if any is interested. Here is one, if anyone wants I'll be happy to type up some more:

After he Completed RTU (at George AFB, where I was born and where Dantley spent some years)(RAG for the navy guys, initial qual in the jet for non mil types) he went to Seymour Johnson. In those days the soviets posed a credible threat so they'd sit jets on alert up and down the east coast, two of which sat at Seymour. I think guys would pull 24-48 hr alert shifts where they'd report in, get a local intel brief and then preflight/hotcock the jets. Buck that means they'd align the INS and make sure the jets were ready to scramble quickly, not what you were thinking. At that point the waiting would begin. The Ruskies would sometimes fly Bear bombers down the coast to Cuba and the alert fighters would launch to escort them. The guys would study, sleep, play cards/basketball...whatever they could to pass the time, always within seconds on being in the jet to race out armed to the teeth to intercept Ivan who, in reality, was probably just looking forward to some T&A in the warm Cuba sun!

Well when you get to a new place, you often don't fly a lot at first due sortie availability etc. Long story short, the old man's last sortie at George was in December, and then he had a local area orientation and some other ride before he was tagged to sit alert in may. Yes, for those counting he had two sorties in five months before sitting in a shack with an armed monster waiting to race out and defend the coast from those communist hoardes. Naturally the claxon went off that night and he raced for his fighter. As he was climbing the ladder the crew chief already had air going through the motors so he could hit the start button and go over the hump (throttle out of the idle cutoff position) for an immediate light off. Quick switch the air to the other side, repeat the procedure for the second motor and run the few remaining checks in the scramble checklist and out they'd dash from the hangars. As they'd race from the hangars missiles would be coming online, ATC would clear them for takeoff and provide an initial vector. The alert facilities were setup on the ends of the runway with very shallow turns onto to runway so you old take them at a good clip. As soon as your were lined up on the runway it was full afterburner on both motors (20 stages of grunt total) and off they'd roar into the night. So here's the new kid on the block with ~69 hours total roaring off with three sorties in five months. Notice no where in here did I mention anything about being strapped in!! Imagine sitting on a live ejection seat, trying to strap in while screaming off to intercept an enemy airplane and you're in a PIO to be damned. Poor WSO!!!

One stupid story of the good old days driving Phantoms post WW-Nam. I'm sure there are guys here with Nam stories to share that'll roll Our socks down.

Anyone interested in more random stories that I an squeeze from the old man?

Dave
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Gents,

John asked me to get the old man an account so he can share full scale F-4 stories. He wasn't real interested in all that, but he passed me a series of stories to share if any is interested. Here is one, if anyone wants I'll be happy to type up some more:

After he Completed RTU (at George AFB, where I was born and where Dantley spent some years)(RAG for the navy guys, initial qual in the jet for non mil types) he went to Seymour Johnson. In those days the soviets posed a credible threat so they'd sit jets on alert up and down the east coast, two of which sat at Seymour. I think guys would pull 24-48 hr alert shifts where they'd report in, get a local intel brief and then preflight/hotcock the jets. Buck that means they'd align the INS and make sure the jets were ready to scramble quickly, not what you were thinking. At that point the waiting would begin. The Ruskies would sometimes fly Bear bombers down the coast to Cuba and the alert fighters would launch to escort them. The guys would study, sleep, play cards/basketball...whatever they could to pass the time, always within seconds on being in the jet to race out armed to the teeth to intercept Ivan who, in reality, was probably just looking forward to some T&A in the warm Cuba sun!

Well when you get to a new place, you often don't fly a lot at first due sortie availability etc. Long story short, the old man's last sortie at George was in December, and then he had a local area orientation and some other ride before he was tagged to sit alert in may. Yes, for those counting he had two sorties in five months before sitting in a shack with an armed monster waiting to race out and defend the coast from those communist hoardes. Naturally the claxon went off that night and he raced for his fighter. As he was climbing the ladder the crew chief already had air going through the motors so he could hit the start button and go over the hump (throttle out of the idle cutoff position) for an immediate light off. Quick switch the air to the other side, repeat the procedure for the second motor and run the few remaining checks in the scramble checklist and out they'd dash from the hangars. As they'd race from the hangars missiles would be coming online, ATC would clear them for takeoff and provide an initial vector. The alert facilities were setup on the ends of the runway with very shallow turns onto to runway so you old take them at a good clip. As soon as your were lined up on the runway it was full afterburner on both motors (20 stages of grunt total) and off they'd roar into the night. So here's the new kid on the block with ~69 hours total roaring off with three sorties in five months. Notice no where in here did I mention anything about being strapped in!! Imagine sitting on a live ejection seat, trying to strap in while screaming off to intercept an enemy airplane and you're in a PIO to be damned. Poor WSO!!!

One stupid story of the good old days driving Phantoms post WW-Nam. I'm sure there are guys here with Nam stories to share that'll roll Our socks down.

Anyone interested in more random stories that I an squeeze from the old man?

Dave

ohhhh yea!!!
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You will find that when you roll the F-FO out on the flight line that you will hear stories from everyone from former pilots, to crew chiefs, to the guys that packed the chute. There is just a certain something about the Phantom. Keep the stories rolling.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqUgUgiToNs[/youtube]

Anyone remember this movie?
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Dude!!! I literally laffed out loud!!!! and in the spirit of this thread....I'll reserve my response for the next time I'm in Vegas haaaahaaaa

let's go Johnny Red!!! start slinging some glue......we want to see this bird at Mississippi AB next year!!! I've already got a "hall pass" for Oz but with any luck we'll get the whole fam/damly to visit also. I'd rather see his old lady anyway

haa haa

Go Rangers!!!

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Gents,

John asked me to get the old man an account so he can share full scale F-4 stories. He wasn't real interested in all that, but he passed me a series of stories to share if any is interested. Here is one, if anyone wants I'll be happy to type up some more:

After he Completed RTU (at George AFB, where I was born and where Dantley spent some years)(RAG for the navy guys, initial qual in the jet for non mil types) he went to Seymour Johnson. In those days the soviets posed a credible threat so they'd sit jets on alert up and down the east coast, two of which sat at Seymour. I think guys would pull 24-48 hr alert shifts where they'd report in, get a local intel brief and then preflight/hotcock the jets. Buck that means they'd align the INS and make sure the jets were ready to scramble quickly, not what you were thinking. At that point the waiting would begin. The Ruskies would sometimes fly Bear bombers down the coast to Cuba and the alert fighters would launch to escort them. The guys would study, sleep, play cards/basketball...whatever they could to pass the time, always within seconds on being in the jet to race out armed to the teeth to intercept Ivan who, in reality, was probably just looking forward to some T&A in the warm Cuba sun!

Well when you get to a new place, you often don't fly a lot at first due sortie availability etc. Long story short, the old man's last sortie at George was in December, and then he had a local area orientation and some other ride before he was tagged to sit alert in may. Yes, for those counting he had two sorties in five months before sitting in a shack with an armed monster waiting to race out and defend the coast from those communist hoardes. Naturally the claxon went off that night and he raced for his fighter. As he was climbing the ladder the crew chief already had air going through the motors so he could hit the start button and go over the hump (throttle out of the idle cutoff position) for an immediate light off. Quick switch the air to the other side, repeat the procedure for the second motor and run the few remaining checks in the scramble checklist and out they'd dash from the hangars. As they'd race from the hangars missiles would be coming online, ATC would clear them for takeoff and provide an initial vector. The alert facilities were setup on the ends of the runway with very shallow turns onto to runway so you old take them at a good clip. As soon as your were lined up on the runway it was full afterburner on both motors (20 stages of grunt total) and off they'd roar into the night. So here's the new kid on the block with ~69 hours total roaring off with three sorties in five months. Notice no where in here did I mention anything about being strapped in!! Imagine sitting on a live ejection seat, trying to strap in while screaming off to intercept an enemy airplane and you're in a PIO to be damned. Poor WSO!!!

One stupid story of the good old days driving Phantoms post WW-Nam. I'm sure there are guys here with Nam stories to share that'll roll Our socks down.

Anyone interested in more random stories that I an squeeze from the old man?

Dave


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