Jet Engine Identification
11-22-2011, 12:53 PM
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Jet Engine Identification
Greetings,
I am a 3rd year Aerospace Tech student at Coventry University, UK. My
final year project involves some work with an mini jet engine that has
no documentation, however i found three following engines KJ66, MW54,
JG100 inside my FADEC ECU manual. I am trying to identify my engine by
contacting manufacturers of the mentioned engines.
I have attached photoes of the engine, could you please assist me with this problem.
It is atleast 5 years old.
It is connected to Autostart FADEC ECU model AU-303
It has 2 pumps:
Graupner Speed 600 7.2V Nr.1793
Multiplex Permax 400 7.2V Nr.332546
I do realize these components can be easily changed, but perhaps they
will help you with identification.
According to FADEC (assuming it has been programmed specifically for this engine and has been run with this engine in the past) the engine stats are:
Start Temp 120 C
Max Temp 800 C
Max RPM 100 000
Min RPM 15 000 (Need to confirm that, cannot remember now)
Operational RPM65 000
Shutdown time 16 sec
Startup time 25 sec
I can provide more pictures of the inside if required.
I've already eliminated posibility of JetCat engine as JetCat USA
company has replied stating that it is not a JetCat engine. Also emailed Wren Turbines today and ARTESJET, but still waiting for a reply. I would
highly appreciate any help from your side.
Regards,
Roman
I am a 3rd year Aerospace Tech student at Coventry University, UK. My
final year project involves some work with an mini jet engine that has
no documentation, however i found three following engines KJ66, MW54,
JG100 inside my FADEC ECU manual. I am trying to identify my engine by
contacting manufacturers of the mentioned engines.
I have attached photoes of the engine, could you please assist me with this problem.
It is atleast 5 years old.
It is connected to Autostart FADEC ECU model AU-303
It has 2 pumps:
Graupner Speed 600 7.2V Nr.1793
Multiplex Permax 400 7.2V Nr.332546
I do realize these components can be easily changed, but perhaps they
will help you with identification.
According to FADEC (assuming it has been programmed specifically for this engine and has been run with this engine in the past) the engine stats are:
Start Temp 120 C
Max Temp 800 C
Max RPM 100 000
Min RPM 15 000 (Need to confirm that, cannot remember now)
Operational RPM65 000
Shutdown time 16 sec
Startup time 25 sec
I can provide more pictures of the inside if required.
I've already eliminated posibility of JetCat engine as JetCat USA
company has replied stating that it is not a JetCat engine. Also emailed Wren Turbines today and ARTESJET, but still waiting for a reply. I would
highly appreciate any help from your side.
Regards,
Roman
11-22-2011, 01:00 PM
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RE: Jet Engine Identification
Try and contact Phil Heward on this site:
http://www.bladonjets.com/about/team/
I think the turbine came from one of his previous companies.
My mate thinks it's a Heward Microjet Phoenix ?
http://www.bladonjets.com/about/team/
I think the turbine came from one of his previous companies.
My mate thinks it's a Heward Microjet Phoenix ?
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RE: Jet Engine Identification
Looks like a Phoenix and if so will be a pile of scrap but the test stand looks stunning! Has is got a strain gauge connected?
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11-22-2011, 02:18 PM
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RE: Jet Engine Identification
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Looks like a Phoenix and if so will be a pile of scrap but the test stand looks stunning! Has is got a strain gauge connected?
Jason
Looks like a Phoenix and if so will be a pile of scrap but the test stand looks stunning! Has is got a strain gauge connected?
Jason
As for the Phoenix, thanks for that. Investigating it now.
11-22-2011, 02:43 PM
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RE: Jet Engine Identification
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Greetings,
I am a 3rd year Aerospace Tech student at Coventry University, UK. My
final year project involves some work with an mini jet engine that has
no documentation, however i found three following engines KJ66, MW54,
JG100 inside my FADEC ECU manual. I am trying to identify my engine by
contacting manufacturers of the mentioned engines.
I have attached photoes of the engine, could you please assist me with this problem.
It is atleast 5 years old.
It is connected to Autostart FADEC ECU model AU-303
It has 2 pumps:
Graupner Speed 600 7.2V Nr.1793
Multiplex Permax 400 7.2V Nr.332546
I do realize these components can be easily changed, but perhaps they
will help you with identification.
According to FADEC (assuming it has been programmed specifically for this engine and has been run with this engine in the past) the engine stats are:
Start Temp 120 C
Max Temp 800 C
Max RPM 100 000
Min RPM 15 000 (Need to confirm that, cannot remember now)
Operational RPM 65 000
Shutdown time 16 sec
Startup time 25 sec
I can provide more pictures of the inside if required.
I've already eliminated posibility of JetCat engine as JetCat USA
company has replied stating that it is not a JetCat engine. Also emailed Wren Turbines today and ARTESJET, but still waiting for a reply. I would
highly appreciate any help from your side.
Regards,
Roman
Greetings,
I am a 3rd year Aerospace Tech student at Coventry University, UK. My
final year project involves some work with an mini jet engine that has
no documentation, however i found three following engines KJ66, MW54,
JG100 inside my FADEC ECU manual. I am trying to identify my engine by
contacting manufacturers of the mentioned engines.
I have attached photoes of the engine, could you please assist me with this problem.
It is atleast 5 years old.
It is connected to Autostart FADEC ECU model AU-303
It has 2 pumps:
Graupner Speed 600 7.2V Nr.1793
Multiplex Permax 400 7.2V Nr.332546
I do realize these components can be easily changed, but perhaps they
will help you with identification.
According to FADEC (assuming it has been programmed specifically for this engine and has been run with this engine in the past) the engine stats are:
Start Temp 120 C
Max Temp 800 C
Max RPM 100 000
Min RPM 15 000 (Need to confirm that, cannot remember now)
Operational RPM 65 000
Shutdown time 16 sec
Startup time 25 sec
I can provide more pictures of the inside if required.
I've already eliminated posibility of JetCat engine as JetCat USA
company has replied stating that it is not a JetCat engine. Also emailed Wren Turbines today and ARTESJET, but still waiting for a reply. I would
highly appreciate any help from your side.
Regards,
Roman
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RE: Jet Engine Identification
Thank you for your answer, it is indeed a Phoenix 30.3 MK4 engine.
I've sent Paul an email, however it has been 3 years since his last login to this website. Anyone has any kind of contact with that man? I've surfed his websites, some of them are down, some of them are still up but dont have any contact details. Im searching for the plans for this Phoenix 30.3 MK4, and so far hes the only one that might still have them.
I've sent Paul an email, however it has been 3 years since his last login to this website. Anyone has any kind of contact with that man? I've surfed his websites, some of them are down, some of them are still up but dont have any contact details. Im searching for the plans for this Phoenix 30.3 MK4, and so far hes the only one that might still have them.
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RE: Jet Engine Identification
It looks like one of Phil Hewards creations but is not a Phoenix 30.3 as that had curved vanes on the diffuser. I have a set of construction drawings for the Phoenix 30.3 and the chamber looks very similar.
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11-22-2011, 03:04 PM
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RE: Jet Engine Identification
This has been a property of some Polythecnic before it came to Coventry Uni 5 years ago, they might've changed the vanes as one of their modification.
I've sent this to Phil aswell.
As for the plans will contact you via pm to dicuss it.
I've sent this to Phil aswell.
As for the plans will contact you via pm to dicuss it.
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RE: Jet Engine Identification
That definately looks like a Pill Heward design, but I agree with John. It is not a 30.3 or a mk 4. But Phill had lots of other designs on the go.
I had several of his engines. With the first I had troubles with the starter motor falling apart constantly, but the various ECU's were toatal rubbish. Once I put a Fadec on it it was quite OK. The Mk 4 gave me several years of trouble free service combined with a fadec.
I had several of his engines. With the first I had troubles with the starter motor falling apart constantly, but the various ECU's were toatal rubbish. Once I put a Fadec on it it was quite OK. The Mk 4 gave me several years of trouble free service combined with a fadec.
