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Old 08-31-2003 | 09:20 AM
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A fellow jet pilot crashed his Roo/ JetCat 120 at full throttle doing a show at the Norwegian heli masters last weekend.

He is a very experienced jet-pilot that got a a bit low on a low-pass...

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Old 08-31-2003 | 11:15 AM
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I agree.. That's a bit too low...

...and i guess the smoking part departing out of the picture to the right is the P120...
Old 08-31-2003 | 11:50 AM
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I don't care how experienced this jet-pilot is, another 10ft to the left and you it just would not be jet pieces you would be picking up.

I can only assume that he was full power all the way from his downwind leg made very wide left turn still at full power, did not realize of how fast he was going with still been in a bank turn and the end result crashed.

Maybe with his next jet he won't be as cocky trying to show off. :stupid:
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Ooops ---- looked like no rudder or wrong rudder during the slow roll ------ at least he was out where he should have been heading in a safe direction ---
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YIKES!!
Old 08-31-2003 | 02:09 PM
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I would have never thought someone was able to transform his roo into a big jigsaw !

This is truly OVER IMPRESSIVE ! Men, we are playing with deadly toys !!!
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I personally thought it was a "beautiful" landing
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Those moulded kits sound a bit like broken china when they disintegrate dont they?That is not the plane to get your rudder input wrong on. good thing it wasnt heading towards the crowd.
maybe they should have a more stringent test for jet flyers.
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Originally posted by F900
[B]I don't care how experienced this jet-pilot is, another 10ft to the left and you it just would not be jet pieces you would be picking up.
Well.... He fly model jets for a living. He is captain for the drone squad in the Norwegian military, and burns more fuel in one year than most of us do in 10 years.... He was also awarded "best in show" for the last two years in our "Norwegian Jet Masters"

The low-pass was safe outside the centerline of the runway, and the plane was never pointed in wards to wards himself or the crowd.

But he has been a little bored with the Roo lately....
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bummer, I can't get the video, it tells me "cannot connect to host"

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SAP, if he's such a great pilot, why did he apply right rudder when he should have used left? Or was it radio failure or what?
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I haven't spoken with him, but it looks to me like the heavy tail wind had a part in it. And of course the "need" to get under one meter to please the demanding crowd (3D heli pilots) probably had a bigger role....

Sometimes it costs to be a showman...
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Jeremy, you might want to try to get the video again. I couldn't get it the first time but I was able to after a second try...GAry
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Originally posted by SAP_2000
Well.... He fly model jets for a living. He is captain for the drone squad in the Norwegian military, and burns more fuel in one year than most of us do in 10 years.... He was also awarded "best in show" for the last two years in our "Norwegian Jet Masters"

The low-pass was safe outside the centerline of the runway, and the plane was never pointed in wards to wards himself or the crowd.

But he has been a little bored with the Roo lately....
Was that RL's doing?

Having served under him, i do not question his piloting-skills....
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How could a tail wind have any effect, other than increase the model's ground speed? It certainly would not decrease it's ability to maintain a knife-edge.
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Originally posted by woketman
How could a tail wind have any effect, other than increase the model's ground speed? It certainly would not decrease it's ability to maintain a knife-edge.
It was gusting pretty bad. This was in western part of Norway by the North sea, and it always blows like h.... there. Wind was about 30 mph.

But, as I said bat judgment probably played a bigger role. OK?
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Originally posted by SAP_2000
Well.... He fly model jets for a living. He is captain for the drone squad in the Norwegian military, and burns more fuel in one year than most of us do in 10 years.... He was also awarded "best in show" for the last two years in our "Norwegian Jet Masters"

The low-pass was safe outside the centerline of the runway, and the plane was never pointed in wards to wards himself or the crowd.

But he has been a little bored with the Roo lately....
well if amt is suplying the engines for the drones he is a happy man.................
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If u listen carefully, you may hear the turbine whistling as it passes by.
Old 09-02-2003 | 10:23 AM
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It looked like some kind of structural failure the way it suddenly went in???.
It was really shifting when it crashed.
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Suck!!!
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If the pilot was running at full throttle, 27 lbs of thrust is what drove that Roo in the ground. The rudders would be ineffective, at that nose low angle and altitude.
Basically the plane was over powered, CG was aft, and the wing loading is too high - result poor control of the aircraft!
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How about just dumb thumbs?? the wrong rudder input on that knife edge pass??
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Yep Vince, but I didn't want to say that.
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If u look at it closely, you may see that the Roo seems to slowly, very slowly point towards the ground, which would mean no rudder input at all, simply a loss of lift as the roo rolls to the edge... => dumb thumbs.

Moreover, I think the pilot feels guilty right after the crash. He does not even shout as we do when facing RC problems, or mechanical issues...
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I dunno about dumb thumbs on this one guys. If i had to give an educated guess i would say it was a RUDDER SERVO FAILURE. Look at the NOSE OF THE PLANE JUST AS HE ROLLED OVER. (very beginning of the video)
THE NOSE DOES PITCH UP. and then instantly goes downward.


Now we will never know from the aftermath of that crash.

I would like to know if anything survived that crash.

sean


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