Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
07-05-2012, 06:17 PM
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Nope I will have my 3 jets and I will fly them.
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Starting to look like Mr DJ's house up in there!
Scott
Starting to look like Mr DJ's house up in there!
Scott
07-05-2012, 08:25 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
Eye candy! Videos will come when I get some motivation, im bummed cant go to KY jets
crazy I get bummed when I cant go fly rc jets because im flying a 30million dollar helicopter
Some cool things you may notice, my hinges are installed, and so are the servo boxes, which are all wood by the way. Fej has me figured out finally
but I dont care what anyone says this f-14 is niiiiiccccceeeee!!!!!!
One other thing I never noticed was the main gear has a small air cylinder for a locking the strut.
crazy I get bummed when I cant go fly rc jets because im flying a 30million dollar helicopterSome cool things you may notice, my hinges are installed, and so are the servo boxes, which are all wood by the way. Fej has me figured out finally
but I dont care what anyone says this f-14 is niiiiiccccceeeee!!!!!!One other thing I never noticed was the main gear has a small air cylinder for a locking the strut.
07-06-2012, 04:25 AM
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Hi Keith:
Great, all is in good condition during shipping to you. The big bubbple rapes make the model safer during transportation.
Bring it to KY Jets and I might have one there too.
Thanks
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07-06-2012, 08:53 AM
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Man, you are soooooo lucky the servo boxes were installed on yours. Not sure why they weren't for Dantley's. It sure is creating a lot more work for me though.
07-06-2012, 08:18 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
Seriously, can FEJ explain the inconsistency? fender gets wood servo boxes installed and I get "honey comb" and it's not installed....
07-06-2012, 08:56 PM
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Dudb, just a thought to your post, I got the first set of slat wings, so mine are pretty much trial and error . The normal kit comes as yours did, plus I told FEJ to give me all ply with honey comb skin. I'm a weird cookie when it comes to the hobby, I have my idea on things, even if its totally wrong I still like it my way. FEJ goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy beyond what I would do for someone to make them happy. I am sorry if my jet and request upset anyone, I really like the fact I have such a personal relationship with the company and the reps. I am very understanding and after a year in this hobby I have found there is no perfect jet or way of doing things. So I take each project/jet and try to make it my own and as personal as I can, I love to build and love the challenge.
I would like to restate something I commented on your build, the wing servo boxes are fine being honey comb, as long as they are attached to the top and bottom skins and all hard points are secure you should have no problem. My brain has been going 90 to nothing for a year on some things, we are way over doing everything. We are adding way more tq than needed on servos and making something waaaaaaay more complex than it has to be. Just my thoughts, I know they dont count since everyone doesn't care what I think. Good luck with your f-14 im sure you will love it.
I am starting to think my efforts to do build threads to help people and learn are doing more harm than good, I have no problem vanishing and doing my own thing if something as simple as my request vs yours causes problem. Lots of passionate people here, which is cool but can be rough for morale at times. I will stop this build now and just do it on my own, if anyone needs my help feel free to ask via pms.
. The normal kit comes as yours did, plus I told FEJ to give me all ply with honey comb skin. I'm a weird cookie when it comes to the hobby, I have my idea on things, even if its totally wrong I still like it my way. FEJ goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy beyond what I would do for someone to make them happy. I am sorry if my jet and request upset anyone, I really like the fact I have such a personal relationship with the company and the reps. I am very understanding and after a year in this hobby I have found there is no perfect jet or way of doing things. So I take each project/jet and try to make it my own and as personal as I can, I love to build and love the challenge. I would like to restate something I commented on your build, the wing servo boxes are fine being honey comb, as long as they are attached to the top and bottom skins and all hard points are secure you should have no problem. My brain has been going 90 to nothing for a year on some things, we are way over doing everything. We are adding way more tq than needed on servos and making something waaaaaaay more complex than it has to be. Just my thoughts, I know they dont count since everyone doesn't care what I think. Good luck with your f-14 im sure you will love it.
I am starting to think my efforts to do build threads to help people and learn are doing more harm than good, I have no problem vanishing and doing my own thing if something as simple as my request vs yours causes problem. Lots of passionate people here, which is cool but can be rough for morale at times. I will stop this build now and just do it on my own, if anyone needs my help feel free to ask via pms.
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Seriously, can FEJ explain the inconsistency? fender gets wood servo boxes installed and I get ''honey comb'' and it's not installed....
Seriously, can FEJ explain the inconsistency? fender gets wood servo boxes installed and I get ''honey comb'' and it's not installed....
07-08-2012, 01:14 AM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
ORIGINAL: FenderBean
Dudb, just a thought to your post, I got the first set of slat wings, so mine are pretty much trial and error. The normal kit comes as yours did, plus I told FEJ to give me all ply with honey comb skin. I'm a weird cookie when it comes to the hobby, I have my idea on things, even if its totally wrong I still like it my way. FEJ goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy beyond what I would do for someone to make them happy. I am sorry if my jet and request upset anyone, I really like the fact I have such a personal relationship with the company and the reps. I am very understanding and after a year in this hobby I have found there is no perfect jet or way of doing things. So I take each project/jet and try to make it my own and as personal as I can, I love to build and love the challenge.
I would like to restate something I commented on your build, the wing servo boxes are fine being honey comb, as long as they are attached to the top and bottom skins and all hard points are secure you should have no problem. My brain has been going 90 to nothing for a year on some things, we are way over doing everything. We are adding way more tq than needed on servos and making something waaaaaaay more complex than it has to be. Just my thoughts, I know they dont count since everyone doesn't care what I think. Good luck with your f-14 im sure you will love it.
I am starting to think my efforts to do build threads to help people and learn are doing more harm than good, I have no problem vanishing and doing my own thing if something as simple as my request vs yours causes problem. Lots of passionate people here, which is cool but can be rough for morale at times. I will stop this build now and just do it on my own, if anyone needs my help feel free to ask via pms.
Dudb, just a thought to your post, I got the first set of slat wings, so mine are pretty much trial and error
. The normal kit comes as yours did, plus I told FEJ to give me all ply with honey comb skin. I'm a weird cookie when it comes to the hobby, I have my idea on things, even if its totally wrong I still like it my way. FEJ goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy beyond what I would do for someone to make them happy. I am sorry if my jet and request upset anyone, I really like the fact I have such a personal relationship with the company and the reps. I am very understanding and after a year in this hobby I have found there is no perfect jet or way of doing things. So I take each project/jet and try to make it my own and as personal as I can, I love to build and love the challenge. I would like to restate something I commented on your build, the wing servo boxes are fine being honey comb, as long as they are attached to the top and bottom skins and all hard points are secure you should have no problem. My brain has been going 90 to nothing for a year on some things, we are way over doing everything. We are adding way more tq than needed on servos and making something waaaaaaay more complex than it has to be. Just my thoughts, I know they dont count since everyone doesn't care what I think. Good luck with your f-14 im sure you will love it.
I am starting to think my efforts to do build threads to help people and learn are doing more harm than good, I have no problem vanishing and doing my own thing if something as simple as my request vs yours causes problem. Lots of passionate people here, which is cool but can be rough for morale at times. I will stop this build now and just do it on my own, if anyone needs my help feel free to ask via pms.
ORIGINAL: dubd
Seriously, can FEJ explain the inconsistency? fender gets wood servo boxes installed and I get ''honey comb'' and it's not installed....
Seriously, can FEJ explain the inconsistency? fender gets wood servo boxes installed and I get ''honey comb'' and it's not installed....
Cheers
Levi
07-08-2012, 06:28 AM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
Yeah I know, I just dont want another event like last time is all. I was having a bad day when that got posted, so your right I over reacted. [&o] I am having some problems getting motivated these days. Could be the south Alabama humid heat getting to me, plus now I have to move in about 7 months to New York state and deploy a month later to Afghanistan. I may just wait till i get back before I even start these jets, my Army pay doesnt support the hobby very well, I need to hit the lottery it takes awhile of saving up to get the big ticket items.
it takes awhile of saving up to get the big ticket items.
07-08-2012, 06:42 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
ORIGINAL: Levi Wags
Hey Fender. I think your over reacting big time to Dantleys post. Seems pretty simple to me, hes bummed cause his install wasnt as easy as yours and it should have been. Didnt sound to me like he was having a crack at you. People do value your opinion and your recommendations. Myself included. You will always get the odd keyboard hero in this game who has to unconstructively point out every this and that, but there is also alot of good advice from people who have been there. Just think of the people your helping and carry on with your build threads mate.
Cheers
Levi
ORIGINAL: FenderBean
Dudb, just a thought to your post, I got the first set of slat wings, so mine are pretty much trial and error. The normal kit comes as yours did, plus I told FEJ to give me all ply with honey comb skin. I'm a weird cookie when it comes to the hobby, I have my idea on things, even if its totally wrong I still like it my way. FEJ goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy beyond what I would do for someone to make them happy. I am sorry if my jet and request upset anyone, I really like the fact I have such a personal relationship with the company and the reps. I am very understanding and after a year in this hobby I have found there is no perfect jet or way of doing things. So I take each project/jet and try to make it my own and as personal as I can, I love to build and love the challenge.
I would like to restate something I commented on your build, the wing servo boxes are fine being honey comb, as long as they are attached to the top and bottom skins and all hard points are secure you should have no problem. My brain has been going 90 to nothing for a year on some things, we are way over doing everything. We are adding way more tq than needed on servos and making something waaaaaaay more complex than it has to be. Just my thoughts, I know they dont count since everyone doesn't care what I think. Good luck with your f-14 im sure you will love it.
I am starting to think my efforts to do build threads to help people and learn are doing more harm than good, I have no problem vanishing and doing my own thing if something as simple as my request vs yours causes problem. Lots of passionate people here, which is cool but can be rough for morale at times. I will stop this build now and just do it on my own, if anyone needs my help feel free to ask via pms.
Dudb, just a thought to your post, I got the first set of slat wings, so mine are pretty much trial and error
. The normal kit comes as yours did, plus I told FEJ to give me all ply with honey comb skin. I'm a weird cookie when it comes to the hobby, I have my idea on things, even if its totally wrong I still like it my way. FEJ goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy beyond what I would do for someone to make them happy. I am sorry if my jet and request upset anyone, I really like the fact I have such a personal relationship with the company and the reps. I am very understanding and after a year in this hobby I have found there is no perfect jet or way of doing things. So I take each project/jet and try to make it my own and as personal as I can, I love to build and love the challenge. I would like to restate something I commented on your build, the wing servo boxes are fine being honey comb, as long as they are attached to the top and bottom skins and all hard points are secure you should have no problem. My brain has been going 90 to nothing for a year on some things, we are way over doing everything. We are adding way more tq than needed on servos and making something waaaaaaay more complex than it has to be. Just my thoughts, I know they dont count since everyone doesn't care what I think. Good luck with your f-14 im sure you will love it.
I am starting to think my efforts to do build threads to help people and learn are doing more harm than good, I have no problem vanishing and doing my own thing if something as simple as my request vs yours causes problem. Lots of passionate people here, which is cool but can be rough for morale at times. I will stop this build now and just do it on my own, if anyone needs my help feel free to ask via pms.
ORIGINAL: dubd
Seriously, can FEJ explain the inconsistency? fender gets wood servo boxes installed and I get ''honey comb'' and it's not installed....
Seriously, can FEJ explain the inconsistency? fender gets wood servo boxes installed and I get ''honey comb'' and it's not installed....
Cheers
Levi
. I can't wrench on anything until my workshop is set-up, so it's causing my buddy/builder Ian more work. Keep on keeping on! It's good to get your point of view on these planes. In the end, the entire community benefits.
07-08-2012, 08:16 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
One of my favorite movies
on a better note, I have been looking over the F-14 in microscopic detail[>:] so far I have found no flaws, my paint is perfect, clean and have found nothing wrong. It really is a work of art, can't wait to get the new F-15, it really sucks I cant get these jets flying before I deploy. Army has me in save mode with all the cut backs and draw downs coming down the pipe. Hey dubd can you get me a weight on your wings? trying to compare how much heavier the slat version is with all ply vs the non slat with honey comb boxes.
on a better note, I have been looking over the F-14 in microscopic detail[>:] so far I have found no flaws, my paint is perfect, clean and have found nothing wrong. It really is a work of art, can't wait to get the new F-15, it really sucks I cant get these jets flying before I deploy. Army has me in save mode with all the cut backs and draw downs coming down the pipe. Hey dubd can you get me a weight on your wings? trying to compare how much heavier the slat version is with all ply vs the non slat with honey comb boxes.
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Levi nailed it. . I can't wrench on anything until my workshop is set-up, so it's causing my buddy/builder Ian more work. Keep on keeping on! It's good to get your point of view on these planes. In the end, the entire community benefits.
ORIGINAL: Levi Wags
Hey Fender. I think your over reacting big time to Dantleys post. Seems pretty simple to me, hes bummed cause his install wasnt as easy as yours and it should have been. Didnt sound to me like he was having a crack at you. People do value your opinion and your recommendations. Myself included. You will always get the odd keyboard hero in this game who has to unconstructively point out every this and that, but there is also alot of good advice from people who have been there. Just think of the people your helping and carry on with your build threads mate.
Cheers
Levi
ORIGINAL: FenderBean
Dudb, just a thought to your post, I got the first set of slat wings, so mine are pretty much trial and error. The normal kit comes as yours did, plus I told FEJ to give me all ply with honey comb skin. I'm a weird cookie when it comes to the hobby, I have my idea on things, even if its totally wrong I still like it my way. FEJ goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy beyond what I would do for someone to make them happy. I am sorry if my jet and request upset anyone, I really like the fact I have such a personal relationship with the company and the reps. I am very understanding and after a year in this hobby I have found there is no perfect jet or way of doing things. So I take each project/jet and try to make it my own and as personal as I can, I love to build and love the challenge.
I would like to restate something I commented on your build, the wing servo boxes are fine being honey comb, as long as they are attached to the top and bottom skins and all hard points are secure you should have no problem. My brain has been going 90 to nothing for a year on some things, we are way over doing everything. We are adding way more tq than needed on servos and making something waaaaaaay more complex than it has to be. Just my thoughts, I know they dont count since everyone doesn't care what I think. Good luck with your f-14 im sure you will love it.
I am starting to think my efforts to do build threads to help people and learn are doing more harm than good, I have no problem vanishing and doing my own thing if something as simple as my request vs yours causes problem. Lots of passionate people here, which is cool but can be rough for morale at times. I will stop this build now and just do it on my own, if anyone needs my help feel free to ask via pms.
Dudb, just a thought to your post, I got the first set of slat wings, so mine are pretty much trial and error
. The normal kit comes as yours did, plus I told FEJ to give me all ply with honey comb skin. I'm a weird cookie when it comes to the hobby, I have my idea on things, even if its totally wrong I still like it my way. FEJ goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy beyond what I would do for someone to make them happy. I am sorry if my jet and request upset anyone, I really like the fact I have such a personal relationship with the company and the reps. I am very understanding and after a year in this hobby I have found there is no perfect jet or way of doing things. So I take each project/jet and try to make it my own and as personal as I can, I love to build and love the challenge. I would like to restate something I commented on your build, the wing servo boxes are fine being honey comb, as long as they are attached to the top and bottom skins and all hard points are secure you should have no problem. My brain has been going 90 to nothing for a year on some things, we are way over doing everything. We are adding way more tq than needed on servos and making something waaaaaaay more complex than it has to be. Just my thoughts, I know they dont count since everyone doesn't care what I think. Good luck with your f-14 im sure you will love it.
I am starting to think my efforts to do build threads to help people and learn are doing more harm than good, I have no problem vanishing and doing my own thing if something as simple as my request vs yours causes problem. Lots of passionate people here, which is cool but can be rough for morale at times. I will stop this build now and just do it on my own, if anyone needs my help feel free to ask via pms.
ORIGINAL: dubd
Seriously, can FEJ explain the inconsistency? fender gets wood servo boxes installed and I get ''honey comb'' and it's not installed....
Seriously, can FEJ explain the inconsistency? fender gets wood servo boxes installed and I get ''honey comb'' and it's not installed....
Cheers
Levi
. I can't wrench on anything until my workshop is set-up, so it's causing my buddy/builder Ian more work. Keep on keeping on! It's good to get your point of view on these planes. In the end, the entire community benefits.
07-08-2012, 08:41 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
I'll see if Ian can weigh the wings.
Sucks about the uncertainty of your Army career. I hope things work out for you.
Sucks about the uncertainty of your Army career. I hope things work out for you.
07-08-2012, 10:06 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
Are the interior surfaces of this honeycomb covered in some sort of composite? The only honeycomb construction i have seen utilzed primarily prepreg not wet layup and any wet layup areas had to have the honeycomb cells filled up with a cabosil mixture which weighed a ton.
07-09-2012, 04:14 AM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
Well all the jets FEJ is producing use the honey comb material and it from I saw with my F-16 it is less weight. My F-16 was the old material except for the new set of elevators and rudders I received. I checked the old against the new and the were less. The 1/5 F-16 was less weight than my 1/6 so i dont know, im smart on material lay up so I cannot answer your question. If you look at the close up picture of the wing mounts about u can see the honey comb material which is the skin of the entire aircraft.
ORIGINAL: mr_matt
Are the interior surfaces of this honeycomb covered in some sort of composite? The only honeycomb construction i have seen utilzed primarily prepreg not wet layup and any wet layup areas had to have the honeycomb cells filled up with a cabosil mixture which weighed a ton.
Are the interior surfaces of this honeycomb covered in some sort of composite? The only honeycomb construction i have seen utilzed primarily prepreg not wet layup and any wet layup areas had to have the honeycomb cells filled up with a cabosil mixture which weighed a ton.
07-09-2012, 09:04 AM
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Are the interior surfaces of this honeycomb covered in some sort of composite? The only honeycomb construction i have seen utilzed primarily prepreg not wet layup and any wet layup areas had to have the honeycomb cells filled up with a cabosil mixture which weighed a ton.
Are the interior surfaces of this honeycomb covered in some sort of composite? The only honeycomb construction i have seen utilzed primarily prepreg not wet layup and any wet layup areas had to have the honeycomb cells filled up with a cabosil mixture which weighed a ton.
Matt, the honeycomb on the interior parts is just sandwiched between thin fiberglass sheets. This is fine for large areas like the fuse. The cells are NOT filled with resin as this would create ridiculous weight. They are definitely not infusing these parts otherwise that is what would happen so I am thinking it is a wet layup. The problem with this is that if you dont do it right and saturate the outside layers of the sandwich thoroughly then you will not get a good bond to the core material. I think this is happening with the servo box parts. They are laying up sheets of core material and then cutting the parts out on a CNC. But some of the parts I got were not bonded properly so they were peeling and when that happens well forget about strength. You are not saving much weight so I just don't know why they don't stick with ply. But that is what I am doing, designing new ribs to tie into the spars and then a plate that goes on top to mount the servo to.
Fender, I will try and weigh the wings at lunchtime.
08-04-2012, 02:05 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
08-04-2012, 07:20 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
#2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktcYT...ature=youtu.be
#3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPaNk...ature=youtu.be
#4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqXh...ature=youtu.be
Elevator servo tray mod and install
#3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPaNk...ature=youtu.be
#4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqXh...ature=youtu.be
Elevator servo tray mod and install
08-04-2012, 08:15 PM
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Good night RCU land feels good to build some, I will go through nose cone tray install tomorrow and probably the rudders servo install.
Does anyone know a place to get paint templates decals for this size f-14? I would really like to add some of the more detailed markings.
Does anyone know a place to get paint templates decals for this size f-14? I would really like to add some of the more detailed markings.
08-05-2012, 08:03 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
Finished the nose cone install and the elevator assemble. I made an aluminum part to prevent the mounting hardware on the elevator assemble from crushing the ply. Enjoy
#5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rDR...ature=youtu.be
#6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGMtj...ature=youtu.be
#5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rDR...ature=youtu.be
#6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGMtj...ature=youtu.be
08-06-2012, 01:31 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
I can but its a simple thing to make I the aluminum I used was thin enough to use cutting shears, even being heat treat. My friend has the material I will ask if he can cut two more, it took like 30 mins to cut and drill both.
ORIGINAL: Wap4life
Hey Fender,
Can you send me two of those piece you built for the end? Let me know the cost.
Hey Fender,
Can you send me two of those piece you built for the end? Let me know the cost.
08-06-2012, 01:42 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle F-14 1/7.5 and F-15E 1/7 scale build thread
I have a questions for current and past FEJ F-14 owners. Any problems with the robart hinges not being pushed in to the pivot point? I have seen this done on WW2 type planes for flaps and stuff. My flaps have about 1/4 in extending from the wing to the pivot point, and same for rudder.
The hinges are weakest at the pivot points so I dont thing it would matter just pondering
See drawing
The hinges are weakest at the pivot points so I dont thing it would matter just pondering
See drawing