what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
03-21-2013, 07:04 AM
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what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
Looking to weather my Mig 15 but not sure what oils or chalks to use.
What's the common used stuff and where can I get it??
Thank in advance.
What's the common used stuff and where can I get it??
Thank in advance.
03-21-2013, 07:14 AM
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
To apply I just wipe it on and back off? Is there a time frame to to remove excess?
Thanks for the help. I have only done the airbrush weathering so this is kinda new to me
Thanks for the help. I have only done the airbrush weathering so this is kinda new to me
03-21-2013, 07:21 AM
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This way will look allot better then the airbrush 
Mix it with some turpentine to thin it some. Then just use a cloth to wipe it on and off. Wipe in the direction of airflow. When wiping off if its to weathered still use some turpentine on a cloth to remove more until you get the finish you want. Wait at least 2 days before clear coating so its dry.
I think (Phil) Pinnacle Aviation has a thread somewhere on how to do it. Hes the master!
Mix it with some turpentine to thin it some. Then just use a cloth to wipe it on and off. Wipe in the direction of airflow. When wiping off if its to weathered still use some turpentine on a cloth to remove more until you get the finish you want. Wait at least 2 days before clear coating so its dry.
I think (Phil) Pinnacle Aviation has a thread somewhere on how to do it. Hes the master!
03-21-2013, 07:24 AM
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
From Phils post about the MIG-29 Weathering, Check out the Youtube Video link.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11..._3/key_/tm.htm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11360291/tm.htm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11174879/tm.htm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uxEOsRdKjt0
Ralph
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11..._3/key_/tm.htm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11360291/tm.htm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11174879/tm.htm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uxEOsRdKjt0
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03-21-2013, 08:07 AM
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
I think the best weathering effects are accomplished using a combination of black and browns (water based) mixed to a thin consistency and wash down the whole plane. Then go back and add highlights which include streaks and rust stains from areas such as the hinge line and cowl exits using a mixture of different earth toned chalks. You can get these at the art supply store, and make sure you get pastel chalks. I scrape them using a blade into a cup mixing different colors. Then brush them on with a a stiff brush working front to back from the area like the wind is moving it backward. A light coat of clear following your satisfactory level of weathering will seal the deal.
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
Another thing I use is liquid shoe polish, the reason being that it contains no waxes, literally apply vigorously with a sponge, wait to dry and then buff off to the required finish, then seal it in with a matte lacquer :-) The results look especially good on aluminium as it shows the minor scratches etc which make it look truly scale!
03-21-2013, 01:29 PM
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ORIGINAL: DocYates
I think the best weathering effects are accomplished using a combination of black and browns (water based) mixed to a thin consistency and wash down the whole plane. Then go back and add highlights which include streaks and rust stains from areas such as the hinge line and cowl exits using a mixture of different earth toned chalks. You can get these at the art supply store, and make sure you get pastel chalks. I scrape them using a blade into a cup mixing different colors. Then brush them on with a a stiff brush working front to back from the area like the wind is moving it backward. A light coat of clear following your satisfactory level of weathering will seal the deal.
I think the best weathering effects are accomplished using a combination of black and browns (water based) mixed to a thin consistency and wash down the whole plane. Then go back and add highlights which include streaks and rust stains from areas such as the hinge line and cowl exits using a mixture of different earth toned chalks. You can get these at the art supply store, and make sure you get pastel chalks. I scrape them using a blade into a cup mixing different colors. Then brush them on with a a stiff brush working front to back from the area like the wind is moving it backward. A light coat of clear following your satisfactory level of weathering will seal the deal.
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03-22-2013, 02:07 AM
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
A mix of oil paints and turpentine worked for me on my Mig 15,
just apply the mix and wipe it of after an hour or so, this stuff needs a couple of days to dry though,
Frank
just apply the mix and wipe it of after an hour or so, this stuff needs a couple of days to dry though,
Frank
03-22-2013, 03:26 AM
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
first thing is Rust is a foreign thing to stainless and aluminum airframes
over doing the weathering can also detract from your plane because there are very few really heavily weathered airplanes, yes inside and around wheels and engines you get some heavy oiling but cmon, these are airplanes.
They are generally well taken care of. I would think less is more
03-22-2013, 05:49 AM
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
ORIGINAL: FreakyDude
first thing is Rust is a foreign thing to stainless and aluminum airframes
first thing is Rust is a foreign thing to stainless and aluminum airframes
over doing the weathering can also detract from your plane because there are very few really heavily weathered airplanes, yes inside and around wheels and engines you get some heavy oiling but cmon, these are airplanes.
They are generally well taken care of. I would think less is more
Anyone who has worked with anything where dissimilar metals are used(stainless and aluminum) knows that bi-metalic corrosion is a nightmare. Mixed with dirt and other basic outside conditions, some stuff gets pretty bad. Even been up close to a in service combat aircraft? Airshow craft tend to be much more pretty than the real deal. I have some MK38 mod 2 cannons I am working on that prove that a well maintained piece of combat equipment is still offten visually gross,lol
03-22-2013, 06:01 AM
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
Depends on the plane and what kind of service they saw. WW2 planes were some of the worse, lots of missions and repairs(battle damage) flying off dirt and grass. I have a friend who was a Navy pilot in Nam and he said the Navy planes were the worst, salvaged parts mismatched colors. Only peacetime aircraft get all that TLC and even then paint fades in the sun and dirt and dust everywhere. But one can overdo wheathering and make it look artificial and extreme.
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
Couldn't agree more, the amount of rust of Harriers speak for itself, it crept out from under the panels and gave it the distinctive colouring underneath etc! The only planes I see that are clear are cherokees etc and airliners because cleanliness is paramount in that business!
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
I have worked in the aircraft industry for over 35 years, manufacturing and for an airline, it still astounds me were rust on an aluminium aircraft comes from, well it may not be rust, 9/10 it is, you have to take into consideration condensation which attracts dirt and other such materials like hydraulic fluids, greases etc. this will escape from any miss fitting panel or fastener. I have attached a couple of photos of an airworthy Grumman hellcat based at IWM Duxford, this aircraft is kept really clean but as you can see there is a lot of crap on the aircraft. It is up to the individual how he wants the model to look its how you get there is the question. Over the 45 years I have been modelling I have used countless different products, I now use artist oil paints which give me the affects that I strive to achieve and every time it works out just right, in my eyes. Artist chalks are also excellent with giving the desired affect, anyway I will try and make some more videos to show in detail the affects.
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
Thanks for the info. Good thread, meat and potatoes just what I like. Photo's really tell the story, I realize this is a individual taste, and that's the beauty of it !!
03-27-2013, 06:37 AM
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RE: what weathering chalk or oils do you use??
Thanks for all the help. I Went with the dry chalk idea. It worked pretty well.
I will do some airbrush work and flat clear.
Now time for the belly...
I will do some airbrush work and flat clear.
Now time for the belly...
