Lighting on Large Skymaster Hawk
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I'm installing the Airfighter lighting kit in my short nose Hawk.
The kit has red green and white position lights, one red flasher, one white flasher and one nose landing light. I know where the red and green lights go on the wing tips and I know there is a belly light just in front of the air brake and one on the spine behind the canopy but where does the third one go and what goes where?
Also does anyone who has moulded their own clear wingtip covers want to sell a pair?
Malcolm
The kit has red green and white position lights, one red flasher, one white flasher and one nose landing light. I know where the red and green lights go on the wing tips and I know there is a belly light just in front of the air brake and one on the spine behind the canopy but where does the third one go and what goes where?
Also does anyone who has moulded their own clear wingtip covers want to sell a pair?
Malcolm
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Hi Malcom
Is this what you need?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apgs6c76ovk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBPUtxcySM
I moulded the wing and fuse lens to apply in the bird
Regards
Nuno
Is this what you need?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apgs6c76ovk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBBPUtxcySM
I moulded the wing and fuse lens to apply in the bird
Regards
Nuno
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Hi Nuno,
Yes very interested in a set and a PM sent!
So from Nuno's videos we have a flashing red behind the canopy, a flashing white on the belly in front of the air brake, the red and green static tip lights and the nose landing light. What about the fixed white in the Airfighter kit is this not used on the Hawk?
Anybody?
Malcolm
Yes very interested in a set and a PM sent!
So from Nuno's videos we have a flashing red behind the canopy, a flashing white on the belly in front of the air brake, the red and green static tip lights and the nose landing light. What about the fixed white in the Airfighter kit is this not used on the Hawk?
Anybody?
Malcolm
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Hi Malcolm,
All aircraft are required to show red, green and white lights, and there are strict limits on the viewing angles as given in the UK Air Navigation Order. The wing red and green (I always remember that the drink port is red as is the port light) must be displayed from dead ahead to 110 deg off the wing tip. The white tail light must display 70 deg either side of dead astern. The lights should also only display 90 deg in up and down in the vertical. Thus you should only ever be able to see one colour to allow you to sort out the orientation at night and give way if required by the rules of the air. Anti colls are not essential although most aircraft have them because the flashing tends to catch a pilot's eye. Hope that this helps.
Colin
All aircraft are required to show red, green and white lights, and there are strict limits on the viewing angles as given in the UK Air Navigation Order. The wing red and green (I always remember that the drink port is red as is the port light) must be displayed from dead ahead to 110 deg off the wing tip. The white tail light must display 70 deg either side of dead astern. The lights should also only display 90 deg in up and down in the vertical. Thus you should only ever be able to see one colour to allow you to sort out the orientation at night and give way if required by the rules of the air. Anti colls are not essential although most aircraft have them because the flashing tends to catch a pilot's eye. Hope that this helps.
Colin
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Hi Colin,
Thanks for that, all I need to know now is where the white light is located? It doesn't appear to be located on the fin and I can't find it in any images so I'm stuck.
Malcolm
Thanks for that, all I need to know now is where the white light is located? It doesn't appear to be located on the fin and I can't find it in any images so I'm stuck.
Malcolm
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Malcolm
If your talking about the rear white light then on the Red Arrows it is in the centre just above the tailpipe and with the Display Hawk it is above the tailpipe but off set to the right...
Alan
If your talking about the rear white light then on the Red Arrows it is in the centre just above the tailpipe and with the Display Hawk it is above the tailpipe but off set to the right...
Alan
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Hi Malcolm,
Sorry didn't finish the post. If you search on 'BAE Hawk walk round' you will see several different aircraft, and see that the the light can be in different positions so you would need to get photos of the aircraft you are modelling. If it is a 4 FTS one then I suspect that they will all be similar - as would the Canadian aircraft since they would all be the same batch.
Cheers,
Colin
Sorry didn't finish the post. If you search on 'BAE Hawk walk round' you will see several different aircraft, and see that the the light can be in different positions so you would need to get photos of the aircraft you are modelling. If it is a 4 FTS one then I suspect that they will all be similar - as would the Canadian aircraft since they would all be the same batch.
Cheers,
Colin
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Hi guys
I have modeled my plane after this one. I did not found in any pics from the real plane with a rear anti-collision light. So I have a total of 5 lights
1 head light
2 position wing lights (red and green)
2 anti collision lights in top and bottom fuse
If there is one in this bird, my controller is for 5 lights anyway......
This plane was also modeled by Vitally for WJM in 2007 after a Airworld kit. From my research there are several demo Hawks that don't even have position lights.
Malcom-what is your colour scheme?
Regards

Nuno
I have modeled my plane after this one. I did not found in any pics from the real plane with a rear anti-collision light. So I have a total of 5 lights
1 head light
2 position wing lights (red and green)
2 anti collision lights in top and bottom fuse
If there is one in this bird, my controller is for 5 lights anyway......
This plane was also modeled by Vitally for WJM in 2007 after a Airworld kit. From my research there are several demo Hawks that don't even have position lights.
Malcom-what is your colour scheme?
Regards
Nuno
Last edited by jetnuno; 11-11-2013 at 03:58 PM.
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My scheme is the 100 squadron 90th anniversary one. In the pic you can just see a small bulge to the right and above the tailpipe which must be the rear light. A pic of another aircraft from the same squadron shows this more clearly so that is what I'm going with.
Nuno did you get my PM?
Malcolm
Nuno did you get my PM?
Malcolm
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PMs sent. I missed that light in my Hawk. There is one in the end - how could I miss it?. I guess it will be hard to make the light support in the SM kit, because the elevator might hit it
The rear light is anti collision, right? (flashing)
Please remember that after cutting the wing, you have to make a small base to screw or glue the cover
Regards
Nuno
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PMs sent. I missed that light in my Hawk. There is one in the end - how could I miss it?. I guess it will be hard to make the light support in the SM kit, because the elevator might hit it
The rear light is anti collision, right? (flashing)
Please remember that after cutting the wing, you have to make a small base to screw or glue the cover
Regards
Nuno
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Hi Nuno,
The rear light should be a steady white - usually the only flashing lights are the red or white anti collision strobes. Some aircraft (the F4 for instance) had a flashing position on the nav lights, but most aircraft only have steady nav lights - i.e.those required by regulation.
The rear light should be a steady white - usually the only flashing lights are the red or white anti collision strobes. Some aircraft (the F4 for instance) had a flashing position on the nav lights, but most aircraft only have steady nav lights - i.e.those required by regulation.



