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Old 12-14-2015, 01:23 PM
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http://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/

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Old 12-14-2015, 01:37 PM
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Any updates from the JPO. I've Been traveling a crap ton lately and may have missed it. Suk it Trebek!
Old 12-14-2015, 01:48 PM
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Buck,

It just came out "officially" today (a few hours ago). I'm sure it caught some by surprise and some time is needed to go through the 200+ (I think) pages.
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Is this something that affects all planes or just "drones"?
Old 12-14-2015, 01:57 PM
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It would be glorious if this went away, however, we are dealing with the federal government… It would be equally as glorious if the powers that be had the common sense to share the AMA member database and auto register all of us "law abiding" citizens, but again, this is the federal government and common sense is a disease that their level of authority has seemed to eradicate.
Old 12-14-2015, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bluelevel
Is this something that affects all planes or just "drones"?
Everything over 250 grams and under 55 pounds. You get a number and you have to put it "on" or "in" your plane(s). Starts on 21 December, some confusion on fees, I think it is $5 but it gets waived for 60 days or so of registration. not sure.

Over 55 pounds now has to be registered in a whole different way, looks to me like the same thing you have to do with a fullsize.

As BV said for years, if the AMA kept embracing drones (flying camera, semi autonomous drones) we would all go down together. The AMA should have done everything in our power to highlight our hobby (flying an aircraft for the fun of watching it fly) versus semi autonomous camera platforms.

Drone registration (and I am sure future regulation) will not differentiate between traditional model aircraft and the "flying tripods" aka drones.
Old 12-14-2015, 02:32 PM
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*deleted* - wrong reference

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Old 12-14-2015, 02:42 PM
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I want to see how the FAA will enforce this.

Little Nazi enforcers flying drones?

Ze Papers now svine!!!

Old 12-14-2015, 02:51 PM
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I just read on the AMA press release that they are working with the FAA so we can use our AMA number as the FAA registration number. I agree with you Matt there will be more to come for us.
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Old 12-14-2015, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ravill
I want to see how the FAA will enforce this.

Little Nazi enforcers flying drones?

Ze Papers now svine!!!

FAA doesnt want to enforce this. They just want to look like they are doing something that makes sense, and why not, take $5 from us quiet idiots while at it.

Would like to thank Horizon Hobby, Hobby Lobby, and Great Planes for making it easier for the average brainless idiot to populate our airspace. Good job!

BV was on the dot.
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Originally Posted by FalconWings

BV was on the dot.
Yes since 2012, IIRC
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I was in the Verizon store recently here in Phoenix and they were selling quad copters...come on man!!
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Old 12-14-2015, 03:45 PM
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Now the speed limit is 250 below 10,000. Turn up the burners! We can all sign on at the same time to register and crash the site....just like OBummercare. Dont worry guys..the gummit has it under control.

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I think it's going to get worse before its worse...uh, I mean better!

As Matt stated, we are going to be "lumped in" with the "drones".
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Originally Posted by vincent
i was in the verizon store recently here in phoenix and they were selling quad copters...come on man!!
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Our club name is the Mavericks, s_ _ ew the FAA. My next meal will be at GITMO!
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So if we are recognized as "aviators" and our aircraft are registered do we now have access to our nation's aviation fund?
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Well, I'm sure the AMA will lose about half it's membership soon. I suppose I'll skip paying my AMA next year and see what happens.
The Big Brother will certainly harvest all our info as soon as we register. Where will it stop when we still have incursions into controlled airspace more and more every day?
Pretty soon we will get the old chip in the shoulder or else....

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[QUOTE=mr_matt;12141352]Everything over 250 grams and under 55 pounds. You get a number and you have to put it "on" or "in" your plane(s). Starts on 21 December, some confusion on fees, I think it is $5 but it gets waived for 60 days or so of registration. not sure.

Over 55 pounds now has to be registered in a whole different way, looks to me like the same thing you have to do with a fullsize.



So what is now different with over 55 lbs. LTMA rules still good? Most of the 1/5 sizes are over 55 lbs at T.O.
Old 12-14-2015, 05:36 PM
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Is it now the clubs responsibility to enforce the FAA ruling to make sure everyone flying has a registration number??
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The full scale pilot boards are lit up too. Imagine suddenly, the FAA is inundated with a million new "pilots". They had to do something. With all these idiots flying them around airports taking videos of arriving airplanes, what do we expect? The AMA has now proven that it's just an insurance company and a magazine. I hate to say it, but it was proven during the meetings with the FAA. I have a lifetime membership to AMA and fully support it until I'm no longer breathing but it's sad when the FAA just took over and left them in the dust. A lot of hard work by our officers and members was wasted...

PS I might add that I'm a full scale instrument rated pilot so I didn't want to see one of these quad buzzers in my windshield when I popped out of the clouds on approach. I'll venture to say that these idiots will not register their quads and the terrorists sure as heck won't so it'll be like our gun control laws.
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:49 PM
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What is the difference between "flying tripods" aka drones and a "traditional rc aircraft with a camera mounted on it? Perhaps BV was right about being lumped together. Whether a quad with a camera, a heli with a camera, or a Carbon Z Cub with a camera, what's the difference. Not all quads with cameras are FPV.
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I have read the first 25 pages of the document. I get why they are doing this but the manner makes no sense at all. Asking people to voluntarily register their planes will only get law abiding people to do so. The rest of them will continue doing what they are doing. Within the first 25 pages you can easily see that this is all related to drones (as we all know) and has nothing to do with model aircraft that fly within line of sight. One of the examples cited included a drone interfering with fire fighting activities in controlled air space that forced all full scale fire fighting planes to land costing the companies thousands of dollars and delaying fire fighting activities. You can see why the FAA is implementing these rules but it will not resolve anything in my opinion.
It is like making people register to buy guns and in most cases criminal don't register their guns. If they truly want to track the drones it has to be done at the point of purchase. Just my opinion though.
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Originally Posted by patrnflyr
The full scale pilot boards are lit up too. Imagine suddenly, the FAA is inundated with a million new "pilots". They had to do something. With all these idiots flying them around airports taking videos of arriving airplanes, what do we expect? The AMA has now proven that it's just an insurance company and a magazine. I hate to say it, but it was proven during the meetings with the FAA. I have a lifetime membership to AMA and fully support it until I'm no longer breathing but it's sad when the FAA just took over and left them in the dust. A lot of hard work by our officers and members was wasted...

PS I might add that I'm a full scale instrument rated pilot so I didn't want to see one of these quad buzzers in my windshield when I popped out of the clouds on approach. I'll venture to say that these idiots will not register their quads and the terrorists sure as heck won't so it'll be like our gun control laws.
Well said. These rulings historically have not and will not provide and or alter the course of how we as a society conduct ourselves. Stupid can not be fixed, ever ! Criminals are not licensed, educated law abiding people, hence the title. Again, these rules can be added to the thousands of other useless government decided crap that they think quells those who will listen, nonsense. Someone please enlighten the community here as to how this will ever be effective as a safety net ? I just don't see it, nor will I ever register a model aircraft and send them a single red cent of mine.
Old 12-14-2015, 06:22 PM
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Well, Got my number today!!!!


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