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Old 03-05-2016 | 05:16 AM
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This is maybe a daft question but how close to scale is the CARF Eurosport and can it be used as a basis for a reasonable facsimile of a Typhoon?

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I have the carf and the old fiber classics and for some reason I think the fiber classics looks more scale specially the wings the have little curve air foil to the leading edge just like the full scale jet
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Yes, the CARF Eurosport does not have the curved wings of the full scale Typhoon, but that is a minor imperfection. I built a model of Eurofighter Development Aircraft 5 and entered it into a Scalemaster's Qualifier in Mesa AZ a few years back, and got a 95 static score out of a 100 possible points. The model had a very good static score, but I didn't do too well in the flying area.......not a problem with the aircraft, but I had a problem with my flying manuvers. Got a couple out of sequence.......my fault, not the airplane. I flew it for several years, and really enjoyed it. I've never found another airplane easier to fly and to land than the Euro. Currently, I'm building a new one that I plan to compete next year with all electric gear, doors, and speed brake. I think the CARF Eurosport is a good base to build a competitive machine, especially since there are no others out there that are more scale. It does take work to make the necessary mods to make the a/c competitive, and you may lose a few points here and there, but it flies so well, I believe you could make that loss up with the flying portion.

I really like the CARF Euro and plan on having one in my fleet from now on since it is a really nice airplane. It is a big airplane and draggy, so it needs a minimum of a 120, and more if you want to hang stores on it. The one I entered in Mesa had a JC P120 with tanks and missles and was pretty soft on verticals. I replaced the 120 with a 160 and it was better, but a 180 would wake it up for sure.

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Please post some pictures .
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It depends what level of scale you want, it is never going to be better than stand off scale but it makes more than just a reasonable facsimile of a Typhoon. One photo below is the real thing, one is my Eurosport, apart from the leading edge slats I think they are hard to tell apart unless you did some close static judging. With a scale colour scheme no-one will have the slightest doubt that it is a Typhoon.
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I owned one, later version, that was very disappointing.
From the start the model has a lot of issues.
The fuse is not symmetrical, at all. From the top view you can see it plain as day. The canards on mine had to be taken out, mounts rebuilt and installed, and their geometry sorted. The wings are different thickness. The servo bay on one wing would not accomodate the servos correctly so that had to be sorted. The gear door kit, well, just make your own. The speed brake kit, same. Took out the rear most bulkhead and replaced it with a stronger well ventilated design. The rudder servo installation was a poor design so we opted for a new better solution. Intake duct kit does not fit the fuse so that had to be modified. Steering servo is buried under the ducts making service impossible so that was custom fitted with a panel. Cockpit kit is sport at best so I hand made my own. The turkey feathers dont exist on this model so I made my own to look more scale. Had to add a vertical fin support inside to distribute the loads better into the upper fuse area, very flimsy as is. The turbine mount was weak so it was redesigned and installed so hard landing could not pop the stock rails off the bulkhead.
Was mine made on Monday? Who knows, I just got fed up with all the surprises and traded it out of pure frustration. Now its well sorted and in good hands.
I cant stand redesigning planes and products that, for money, should be sound and good to go.

I wouldnt own another one.

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Originally Posted by mikehannah
Hi
This is maybe a daft question but how close to scale is the CARF Eurosport and can it be used as a basis for a reasonable facsimile of a Typhoon?

Mike
To try and answer your question more appropriately I would ask you first how accurate to scale are you aiming for?
The CARF model is missing the rear missile pockets in the fuse. The rear of the plane was based on the early version with different engines so the nozzels are not correct and neither is the rear bulkhead and sensors.
As a 10 footer it will pass as a nice looking plane stock but if your going high fidelity then you have a lot of work to do. You can turn a kit into a new master model and build from there Id guess but fix the symmetry issues!
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Hi
Thanks for the many replies.I think I have found out what I wanted to know . To answer the question the Typhoon is one of the few modern era jets I like and it is on my bucket list. But I am not after a full on scale jet, ,one that looks the part or can be made to look the part relatively easily Which judging by the replies Eurosport ticks the boxes.

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