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04-26-2002 | 04:27 AM
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Compass Cope "R"
Talk about memories!
I worked on the full scale mock up Model 235'S (Compass Cope 'R") at Teledyne Ryan Aeronautical in 1973. One of the two built is in the Pima County Air Museum, Tucson, Az.
Great airplane....set numerous distance/altitude/endurance records. Some of them unbroken until our replacement, the Global Hawk flew in February of 1997. We flew for 28 hours, 11 minutes, 12 seconds in November of 1974. I spent a couple of weeks in the wind tunnel on the first tests of the Global Hawk in November of 1995.
Great job for a modeler....just like a kid in the candystore!
Where did ya get the kit?
Harley Condra
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Northrop Grumman Ryan Aeronautical Center
Air Combat Systems
San Diego Ca.
I worked on the full scale mock up Model 235'S (Compass Cope 'R") at Teledyne Ryan Aeronautical in 1973. One of the two built is in the Pima County Air Museum, Tucson, Az.
Great airplane....set numerous distance/altitude/endurance records. Some of them unbroken until our replacement, the Global Hawk flew in February of 1997. We flew for 28 hours, 11 minutes, 12 seconds in November of 1974. I spent a couple of weeks in the wind tunnel on the first tests of the Global Hawk in November of 1995.
Great job for a modeler....just like a kid in the candystore!
Where did ya get the kit?
Harley Condra
BVM REP
RAM REP
Northrop Grumman Ryan Aeronautical Center
Air Combat Systems
San Diego Ca.
04-26-2002 | 04:34 AM
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Neat history! I really knew nothing about the prototype. I'm guessing you used something bigger than a scozzi fan on the full scale one...
Funny thing about this kit is that I had seen the ad in an old magazine, but NOBODY had ever seen an actual kit until I found this one, so nobody was sure if it had actually been released. I bet it flies well, all BV's stuff does. I know his own prototype flew, I saw some articles in some old mags.
Where did I get it? Hey, I'm the KING of vintage balsa! I have my sources. This one came from deep beneath Cheyenne Mountain! Top Secret!
Not sure what I will do with it yet. I am tempted to build it, it's a great piece of history, and I happen to have a turbax and OS46 sitting around. Swore I had sworn off DF models, but this may be an exception, I dunno.
Funny thing about this kit is that I had seen the ad in an old magazine, but NOBODY had ever seen an actual kit until I found this one, so nobody was sure if it had actually been released. I bet it flies well, all BV's stuff does. I know his own prototype flew, I saw some articles in some old mags.
Where did I get it? Hey, I'm the KING of vintage balsa! I have my sources. This one came from deep beneath Cheyenne Mountain! Top Secret!
Not sure what I will do with it yet. I am tempted to build it, it's a great piece of history, and I happen to have a turbax and OS46 sitting around. Swore I had sworn off DF models, but this may be an exception, I dunno.
04-26-2002 | 04:44 AM
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God, not only do I remember the kit, I remember seeing one on the local hobby shop shelf. But that was back in PA. I wasn't into jets then, though.
Remember his "Sundowner" article in American Aircraft Modeler? Or the original BV Bobcat?
Remember his "Sundowner" article in American Aircraft Modeler? Or the original BV Bobcat?
04-26-2002 | 11:37 AM
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The original Bobcat was a FAI Pylon job, right? A really innovative one.
Does anybody know anything about the first DF model he brought to toledo? He hit a telephone pole with it. I saw some pics, it looked a lot like the NEW Bobcat...
Does anybody know anything about the first DF model he brought to toledo? He hit a telephone pole with it. I saw some pics, it looked a lot like the NEW Bobcat...
04-26-2002 | 12:50 PM
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I still have the Sundowner article (somewhere). I was enthralled by it when it came out in the magazine. My dad took me to Lakehurst NJ for the Aerolypics in '74 (I think) and there we saw a flight demo of the Sudowner by some dude named Violett, I think. I was as amazed as if I'd seen warp drive!
04-26-2002 | 01:01 PM
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Snag us a picture if you can!
Whatever you want to say about BV, he "made his bones", as the mobsters say, a long, long time ago. The Compass Cope was not his FIRST DF design, but his first KITTED design(I beleive) and the first scale one...
By the way, he also took the same methodical and inventive approach to his pylon racers as he did to jets. He was VERY good.
Whatever you want to say about BV, he "made his bones", as the mobsters say, a long, long time ago. The Compass Cope was not his FIRST DF design, but his first KITTED design(I beleive) and the first scale one...
By the way, he also took the same methodical and inventive approach to his pylon racers as he did to jets. He was VERY good.
04-26-2002 | 06:01 PM
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The full scale was powered by an engine somewhat more powerfull than a K&B .45 and a Scozzi fan. It had a Garrett ATF-3 turbofan that made 4,050 lbs of thrust.
The Compass Cope R was one of the first, and at that time the largest (81 ft. span) RPV to take off and land on a runway. It had a retractable tricycle landing gear system.
It was a big bird for that time. 81 ft span, 37 ft long, and 8ft high to the top of the engine pod. The gross weight was a little over 14,000 lbs. It had an unrefuelled endurance of 30 hours.
It was the grandpappy of the totally autonomous RQ-4A Global Hawk. Global Hawk has a 116 ft wingspan--more than a Boeing 737. Power is an Allison turbofan with 7,500 lbs of thrust.
From the east coast, the Global Hawk can taxi out, take off, climb to 65,000 feet, transit the Atlantic and Europe, fly the programmed mission(s) over lets say, Boznia for 24 hours, then cross Europe and the Atlantic , get in the pattern and land among other traffic (under ATC control) and taxi back to the programmed lat-long parking spot the mission planners have selected, and shut down. It requires absolutely no human intervention in the performance of a normal mission. It can also be retasked during a mission as required by satcom, and recovered at a different base. All imagry and data can be downlinked in real time (satcom again), to area and theater commanders and interpreters while performing the mission.
We recently flew from Edwards AFB to Australia, by way of some other garden spots, and flew a month's worth of maritime recon missions for the Australian Air Force. That bird flew back to EAFB upon completion of the Aussie missions.
BTW, we carry 2000 lbs of combined recon payloads as well.
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Kid in the candystore.
The Compass Cope R was one of the first, and at that time the largest (81 ft. span) RPV to take off and land on a runway. It had a retractable tricycle landing gear system.
It was a big bird for that time. 81 ft span, 37 ft long, and 8ft high to the top of the engine pod. The gross weight was a little over 14,000 lbs. It had an unrefuelled endurance of 30 hours.
It was the grandpappy of the totally autonomous RQ-4A Global Hawk. Global Hawk has a 116 ft wingspan--more than a Boeing 737. Power is an Allison turbofan with 7,500 lbs of thrust.
From the east coast, the Global Hawk can taxi out, take off, climb to 65,000 feet, transit the Atlantic and Europe, fly the programmed mission(s) over lets say, Boznia for 24 hours, then cross Europe and the Atlantic , get in the pattern and land among other traffic (under ATC control) and taxi back to the programmed lat-long parking spot the mission planners have selected, and shut down. It requires absolutely no human intervention in the performance of a normal mission. It can also be retasked during a mission as required by satcom, and recovered at a different base. All imagry and data can be downlinked in real time (satcom again), to area and theater commanders and interpreters while performing the mission.
We recently flew from Edwards AFB to Australia, by way of some other garden spots, and flew a month's worth of maritime recon missions for the Australian Air Force. That bird flew back to EAFB upon completion of the Aussie missions.
BTW, we carry 2000 lbs of combined recon payloads as well.
Harley Condra
BVM REP
RAM REP
Kid in the candystore.
