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Old 03-02-2018, 05:56 PM
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Default It’s 2018 so. What turbine oil is good for all major brands

I don’t want another jet oil war. But I’m hoping to be flying in a month and used the last of my 4 th 5 gal jug of DTE Light

But this year I have 2 king Tec motors, 1 Jetcat , 1 Jetmunts

I was going to order 2 gal from Kingtec as they told me if I use DTE Light I will need to send it in early.

But how will Kingtec oils play with the rest of my fleet? I refuse to carry more than one brand of oil/fuel

My buddies at Elite and talking about useing 2stroke oil at 1/2 quart per 5 gal.

So what say you
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I run Kingtech oil in my jetcat and I have ran jetcat oil in my Kingtechs, I personally feel either one is a great option .
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I like the Kingtech oil because it doesn't stain my tanks or fuel lines. Everything is still crystal clear after holding fuel for a year.
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Originally Posted by SECRET AGENT
I like the Kingtech oil because it doesn't stain my tanks or fuel lines. Everything is still crystal clear after holding fuel for a year.
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Originally Posted by mikes68charger
I don’t want another jet oil war. But I’m hoping to be flying in a month and used the last of my 4 th 5 gal jug of DTE Light

But this year I have 2 king Tec motors, 1 Jetcat , 1 Jetmunts

I was going to order 2 gal from Kingtec as they told me if I use DTE Light I will need to send it in early.

But how will Kingtec oils play with the rest of my fleet? I refuse to carry more than one brand of oil/fuel

My buddies at Elite and talking about useing 2stroke oil at 1/2 quart per 5 gal.

So what say you
I did a bunch of testing with Wrens with Amsoil at 5%.. it eventually coke'd up the motors at that mix, and the bearing tunnel was dripping with oil.. some run at 2.5% nowadays, but I went to Kingtech oil on all my turbines and haven't looked back. I add a few drops of anti algae in the midwest.. If I lived out west, I would add a few drops of static.
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Kingtech oil is all I ever buy, run it in my Kingtechs, Merlins, and Jetcats, plus it has anti-static additive already in it.
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I bought a case of Aeroshell 500 just before Barry et al, all stated that KingTech warranty was void if anything but their oil was used in their engines.

So I bought another jersey modeler and use one for KingTech oil and the other for all my other engines. Kind of a pain in the keister, but I found a solution that I like.

Once my aeroshell 500 is gone, I’ll just use the KingTech stuff.

Now if other manufacturers started having problems with everyone else’s stuff.....I’d start getting upset
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Did some of you guys used royco 899 ,500 ,mil 23699 military greate made by Rolls Royce ?
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Been using MIL spec 23699 oil since day one. Exxon 2380 aeroshell 500 mobile jet 2 etc.

You can never go wrong with manufacturer recommendations...... as long as you remember to add it to your fuel can when refilling 😉
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Don't think cost was mentioned, using 2380 and JetA was extremely expensive, now it's easier and way cheaper using Kingtech oil and diesel.
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I did some reading on the oil type required for Jetsmunt a couple years ago and found that Kingtech oil meets the spec for both kingtech and Jetsmunt turbines. The Kingtech oil also has some good additives that in my opinion makes it very good oil for our turbines.
I ran Kingtech oil in my both my Jetsmunt and Kingtech turbines for a couple seasons with no problems.
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Me being an aircraft mechanic I had allot of time back in the day working on a planes that used 2380..... It's very toxic. Now if I even get close to the stuff my eyes start itching.

The kingtech oil was made by a chemist at shell specifically for our turbines. During overhauls and service inspections Dirk can tell you exactly what fuel and oil you run based on coking and smell. By far the best combo has been kingtech oil and diesel.
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Originally Posted by Gary Jefferson
I did some reading on the oil type required for Jetsmunt a couple years ago and found that Kingtech oil meets the spec for both kingtech and Jetsmunt turbines. The Kingtech oil also has some good additives that in my opinion makes it very good oil for our turbines.
I ran Kingtech oil in my both my Jetsmunt and Kingtech turbines for a couple seasons with no problems.
+1.. I talked to gaspar about it a couple years ago.. I could mix my own, but 2 gallons with a couple clicks and it shows up.. I use it with Kerosene.. and I put a few drops of algicide in it. This way, I can store the Kero in a sealed container as long as I want. It doesn't separate at all. I mixed it and let it sit for 4 months, and its still mixed.

There are lots of things that work, this is what works for me
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Gunradd nailed it on the head. I was recently talking to Dirk as well. And he said exactly what Gunradd said. Kingtech oil and Diesel. Easy to clean, and keeps turbine looking good and new. Diesel makes more power and is more efficient.
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My boy was going to sell me 12 quarts of Shell 500 for $135. But I remember about kingtec not liking it. So I’ll just get Kingtec oil
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I use Amsoil Dominator Synthetic mixed 1 pt per 5 gal diesel. No problems in my Jet Central motors.
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Originally Posted by yeahbaby
Been using MIL spec 23699 oil since day one. Exxon 2380 aeroshell 500 mobile jet 2 etc.
yeah me too, since I can't remember, 1996 or 1997?

If you know where to look you can get deals, I got 60 cans last time for 6 bucks a can
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Like many have stated. Been using the Kingtech oil in all my engines. All new purchases have been Kingtech
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We have nasty diesel with some biodiesel some times it stinks like bad eggs that's why I'm going with kerosine ,we could buy it at the pump for maybe 45c more than diesel per gallon ,I think that kerosine it's much cleaner than diesel ,using king oil with kingtech turbines and Mobil jet ll with other brands and almost no diesel only if there no kero option .
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Sucks that my Moble 1 DTE Light was no longer acceptable. $90 for 5 gallons was sweet
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I haven't been watching. Last I knew we could run dte light. When did that change?
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About 3 years ago...jonkoppisch

I only run Kingtech oil. From reading the post here, I would say we have a clear winner.
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Originally Posted by tp777fo
I use Amsoil Dominator Synthetic mixed 1 pt per 5 gal diesel. No problems in my Jet Central motors.
Jet central tested this mix at 2.5% Dominator.. they approved it.. so it should be ok. When I tested it for Wren, I was directed at 5%.. it was just too much oil and I got buildup.. That being said, I would like to see a rear bearing tunnel, and turbine stator section to see after 2.5% Dominator.. I always thought that would work too. I have a few friends that run Klotz light at 5% with no issues. I have also run Hydralic recip oil like Mobil or Hydro. I ran 32 wt, not 24 wt though.. The KingTech oil was originally based on a T32 Shell mix.. so in the end, having tried and tested a bunch of oils, they all work.. I had to take the cost out of the picture, and just use what works for me..

I agree with sebastian on the Diesel.. I dont like the smell, and we get water in it up here in the midwest. I have taken to using a MrFunnel when I fill from the pump. I put the oil in the can first, and store the mixture fully mixed.. I used to store it raw.. I changed my ways when I talked to Barry about how the oil helps suspend the particles in the diesel and kerosene.. I put some KT oil in a jar mixed with Diesel and another with Kero.. Let them sit for 4 months over the winter.. The KT oil stayed fully mixed that entire time.. so I decided to go with it..

My point: whatever you use.. put some in a jar with the mix.. let it sit.. if it separates, you do not have a good combination.. The bearings need very little oil, but they need some.. The oiler hits the shaft in the front, and spins down the shaft and out the back.. the rest burns.. so the oil has to burn cleanly, and still have styptic properties.
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Originally Posted by jonkoppisch
I haven't been watching. Last I knew we could run dte light. When did that change?
DTE still good for most engines but KingTech says to send it in early for bearing change.
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Anybody know what's in JetCat turbine oil? They say it's "safe for all all brands of micro turbines".

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