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Old 11-12-2019 | 11:24 AM
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Yes, a 12 or 14 channel standalone rx is needed, with the ability to plug the gyro into it.
Old 11-12-2019 | 12:03 PM
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Agree 100% with the above. I’ve looked very closely at this radio but it goes from a simple 9 channel to these huge powerbox units allowing dozens of servos, etc. A simple 12-16 channel would be nice.
Old 11-12-2019 | 12:35 PM
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Just use the PowerExpander, Rx size, add any of the BUS Rx’s on any length of patch lead to get a good RX placement.

Anyway the future is the Mercury, everything in one box, small enough for any sport just like my Joker, Gyro, 15 channels-freely assignable, twin regulators, 5.9 or 7.4v output ( you chose) twin power input, twin Rx redundancy, a box of safety.
Old 11-12-2019 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by patrnflyr
Agree 100% with the above. I’ve looked very closely at this radio but it goes from a simple 9 channel to these huge powerbox units allowing dozens of servos, etc. A simple 12-16 channel would be nice.
I agree a 12 channel would be nice.

But it does NOT go from 9 channels to needing a Mercury.
Old 11-12-2019 | 01:16 PM
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I agree with the reasoning for 12 and 16 channel receivers in the range. Personally I use many of the usual PB units (including the small but yet cumbersome, Expander) and still have a number of models where these are simply not the answer. Whilst PB has created fantastic new options, they do need to recognise the fact that it will need to replace existing installations in many cases - so please PB, make it a little easier for longstanding modellers to make the switch.

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Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey
I agree a 12 channel would be nice.

But it does NOT go from 9 channels to needing a Mercury.
Show me the product then... maybe i'm missing it
Old 11-12-2019 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by patrnflyr
Show me the product then... maybe i'm missing it
2 x 9 channel rx, gives you channels 1-18 w/o needing a Mercury
Old 11-12-2019 | 02:01 PM
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So my customers going from JR took out an 11ch Rx, A Sensor switch ( or Gemini II) and an iGyro 3e and fitted one neat Mercury...it really could not be easier. ( yes you have to connect 26D’s to it.)
I know the US market is different from Europe, but over here PB units are very very common
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Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey
2 x 9 channel rx, gives you channels 1-18 w/o needing a Mercury
How are you powering these Rx’s? Gyro?
Old 11-12-2019 | 02:06 PM
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Batteries? LOL

What are you asking? Just like any other receiver where you need to plug up a battery, Y it with a non-critical channel.

Or use a channel slot on each.

Or use 2 channel slots on each, that still gives you 14 channels, 2 battery inputs, and plenty of channels.

Personally I think if you need that many you probably should be looking at power distribution anyways but if the question is, can it be done, then the answer is yes.
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Whether you would use Ni batteries, regulators etc, what batteries?
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Is there any issues using a Y-cable as an output into the 26ch rx with telemetry and Mercury input?
Old 11-12-2019 | 02:34 PM
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Please explain... You using M link or Pbus2?
Old 11-12-2019 | 03:01 PM
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P2Bus from rx, y into a turbine telemetry unit and Mercury for rx input.
Old 11-12-2019 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Wilshere
Whether you would use Ni batteries, regulators etc, what batteries?
I gave up Ni batteries for lent.

I'd either use a regulated 2S, unregulated 2S, or A123 packs depending on the servos in use and the model I was setting up.

I want to qualify my answer again, I think a 12 channel would be great, any more than that you probably should be looking at a Mercury or similar and a couple of 26D receivers.
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Originally Posted by patrnflyr
Show me the product then... maybe i'm missing it
All of the buss capable PowerBox receivers from the 5 ch to the 26 ch will push 26 channels in buss mode.
So, a Power Expander (18 ch output) for $129 and any of the buss receivers from $60 to $129 will give you 18 channels for $189 to $258.
I remember paying $200 for the older Spektrum 12 ch PowerSafe receivers for comparison.

I fly a JR12X, but I'm doing research...
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Should be fine, I presume the Mercury with latest update will have the drivers. Which turbine TELE unit?
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Originally Posted by Springbok Flyer
I agree with the reasoning for 12 and 16 channel receivers in the range. Personally I use many of the usual PB units (including the small but yet cumbersome, Expander) and still have a number of models where these are simply not the answer. Whilst PB has created fantastic new options, they do need to recognise the fact that it will need to replace existing installations in many cases - so please PB, make it a little easier for longstanding modellers to make the switch.

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Having converted two models to Core, a little Savex L 39 and a much bigger Reaction both with just the 9 channel receivers conversion was simplicity itself.

Next will be an Airworld Hawk, 26 channel rx plus Mercury and I gyro. Hardly difficult. !

That said, perhaps PB will integrate these units into one unit as was done on the brilliant Weatronics Gizmo receiver.

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Originally Posted by Dave Wilshere
Should be fine, I presume the Mercury with latest update will have the drivers. Which turbine TELE unit?
VSpeak unit.
Old 11-13-2019 | 12:32 PM
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So I talked to Powerbox today and learned something new!

This
https://powerbox-americas.com/collec...13599091589184

Allows you to use 1 or 2 26D receivers placed for signal diversity and get full 18 channels and its available with deans or MPX input. For those installations that need more channels yet don't quite require a full Powerbox system.
Old 11-13-2019 | 12:53 PM
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You don’t have to power the Expander through the MPX or Deans socket, all the positives and negatives are linked, so you can use the Sensor Switch or Gemini II std leads into spare sockets-just like an Rx
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Old 11-13-2019 | 02:20 PM
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Expander has been around years. We use them on JR DMSS for more channels. Being SRS you have to set the radio type before it will work ( unless you are Futaba)
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Yes, tbh I forgot about it. When I was talking to them today Danny reminded me that this is another way to accomplish the mid-size models
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But it still mean that to replace my single 14/18ch sb Rx, that I need at least 1 x PB Rx + 1 x PB Expander or alternatively 2 x PB Rx's.

Please PB, give us a 12 to 16 channel Rx.

JanR


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