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Old 12-12-2019, 12:04 PM
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Just looking at ordering some oil for my helis, running a couple of Wren 44s and a Jetcat PHT2.

I've been using BP 2830, but this doesn't seem to be around much anymore.
The Jetcat manual stipulates Aeroshell 500
The Wren Manual says Aeroshel 500, 2830, Mobil Jet Oil & Castrol TTS

What's confusing me is King Tech saying DON'T use Aeroshell 500...!
Do they know something everyone else doesn't?!

If I buy some Aeroshell (which I can get locally) can I mix it in with the remains of my 2380 laced fuel bottle?
Old 12-12-2019, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nige321
Just looking at ordering some oil for my helis, running a couple of Wren 44s and a Jetcat PHT2.

I've been using BP 2830, but this doesn't seem to be around much anymore.
The Jetcat manual stipulates Aeroshell 500
The Wren Manual says Aeroshel 500, 2830, Mobil Jet Oil & Castrol TTS

What's confusing me is King Tech saying DON'T use Aeroshell 500...!
Do they know something everyone else doesn't?!

If I buy some Aeroshell (which I can get locally) can I mix it in with the remains of my 2380 laced fuel bottle?
If you talk to George DelMoral, the guy who does Jetcat repair in the U.S., he will tell you NOT to use Aeroshell 500...

I've effectively switched to just using Jetcat oil. Jetcats like it and Kingtech and Jet Central allow it, so I can run it in all my engines...

Bob
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Nigel don’t use Aeroshell 500! JetCats ok is from the very early days when little else existed. I have BP2197 if you need

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Old 12-12-2019, 02:03 PM
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Just look at eBay for turbine oil they have plenty of all brands
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2380 was Exxon, then BP2380, and now the next owner is Eastman2380

https://www.airplaneoil.com/Eastman_...p2380-case.htm

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I have used BP2380 in all my Turbines since I started Jets. No issues at all and when I have sent engines in for service they have said very clean engin.
NO ISSUES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I work on full scale and I can tell you I hate 2380. When I was younger it was fine but now just walking up to a plane that uses it my eyes start to itch and swell up. It’s nasty stuff. It was also never ment to be burned off like our turbines do.

so many better choices I would stay away from any turbine oil used for full scale since they are not designed to burn.

btw Aeroshell 500 is the worst. It carbons up very bad in all brands. Dirk at Kingtech is just the first one to say why do some of these engines come with so much build up. So he started asking what oil they used and found out it was Aeroshell 500 in all the real bad engines.
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Hey buddy are you ever seen the royco oil made Rolls Royce I think military using that oil?
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TYRBONYCOIL, , no OPs, meets all specs. approved by RR, P & W, GE, CFM etc. Just had a call from Paul Hardman, who has done done a bearing change on a PST 1300 after over 40 hours. He reports that the engine is like new inside.

All of my engines, PST, JetCat, Wren, AMT, Xicoy, Jets Munt run perfectly on this oil used with Jet A1.

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Thanks folks, I just found the local airfield has Eastman 2830 - I hadn't realised it had changed name...
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Here is a source for turbine oil. I have been using 2197 for years without a single lubrication related problem.

oil-store.com/product-category/aviation
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Originally Posted by Nige321
Thanks folks, I just found the local airfield has Eastman 2830 - I hadn't realised it had changed name...
Just avoid breathing oil fumes and don't get it on your skin. OP s, which almost all turbine oils contain as a load bearing additive, affect different people in different ways, but the effects can be nasty, very nasty indeed. By the time any effects become apparent, its too late.
Those of us who flew the 757 are only too aware of the toxicity.

Google aerotoxic syndrome.

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Old 12-14-2019, 01:18 PM
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Hi Guys

Can anyone comment on the suitability of OX-9, / O-148 / 7808 military spec oil? I was given some tins of this for my home built engine which seemed ok at the time. I now use a jetsmunt but wont use this oil until i find proof one way or the other of its suitability!

Ive searched google and it throws up turbonycoil 160 has this spec

Thanks

Dave Windy Miller

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Old 12-15-2019, 03:35 AM
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Turbonycoil 600 is standard turbine oil and what I use.

Turbonycoil 160 is a similar turbine oil but formulated for low temp . Ops so presumably has a lower viscosity making it more suitable for in flight, cold soaked, APU starts or engine start in v low temps.

My guess is that your oil should de fine for model type engine ops.
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Thanks David

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