Max servo acceptable idle current
#1
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Hello
I have a CARF SU-30 that has 25 servos in it (!).
What would be an acceptable idle current draw (no controls being moved)?
Mine is drawing around 3.0 amps. I can go ahead and start trying to find out which servos may be binding, but it will take some effort to do so. Wondering if this current draw is unusual for these a plane with this many servos.
See chart.

Spikes are not an issue as all current for the motors are flowing true the Royal.
I have a CARF SU-30 that has 25 servos in it (!).
What would be an acceptable idle current draw (no controls being moved)?
Mine is drawing around 3.0 amps. I can go ahead and start trying to find out which servos may be binding, but it will take some effort to do so. Wondering if this current draw is unusual for these a plane with this many servos.
See chart.

Spikes are not an issue as all current for the motors are flowing true the Royal.
#5
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I though this was excessive, but it’s good to have confirmation.
It was not too hard to isolate. I have three issues to solve:
1- Left elevon- two servos using the Royal servo matching are not well synchronized.
2- same with the right elevon
3- bad servo for the left main door
I will see how can I correct the elevons matching without removing the linkages. The servos are buried in the fuselage and can’t see how to easily get there.
Bought the plane used, so learning about it as I go along.
The graph comes from the Powerbox terminal software used to analyze the Core flights logs. check the Powerbox forums...
thanks
It was not too hard to isolate. I have three issues to solve:
1- Left elevon- two servos using the Royal servo matching are not well synchronized.
2- same with the right elevon
3- bad servo for the left main door
I will see how can I correct the elevons matching without removing the linkages. The servos are buried in the fuselage and can’t see how to easily get there.
Bought the plane used, so learning about it as I go along.
The graph comes from the Powerbox terminal software used to analyze the Core flights logs. check the Powerbox forums...
thanks
#6
I though this was excessive, but it’s good to have confirmation.
It was not too hard to isolate. I have three issues to solve:
1- Left elevon- two servos using the Royal servo matching are not well synchronized.
2- same with the right elevon
3- bad servo for the left main door
I will see how can I correct the elevons matching without removing the linkages. The servos are buried in the fuselage and can’t see how to easily get there.
Bought the plane used, so learning about it as I go along.
The graph comes from the Powerbox terminal software used to analyze the Core flights logs. check the Powerbox forums...
thanks
It was not too hard to isolate. I have three issues to solve:
1- Left elevon- two servos using the Royal servo matching are not well synchronized.
2- same with the right elevon
3- bad servo for the left main door
I will see how can I correct the elevons matching without removing the linkages. The servos are buried in the fuselage and can’t see how to easily get there.
Bought the plane used, so learning about it as I go along.
The graph comes from the Powerbox terminal software used to analyze the Core flights logs. check the Powerbox forums...
thanks
#7

You may want to consider using a inline ammeter one servo at a time. This allows one to isolate the culprit(s) quickly. For ganged servos I start furthest from the fuse to set the surface where I want it. Then set the inner servo for minimum current. Kind of old school. But I believe in KISS and it works.
#8

You may want to consider using a inline ammeter one servo at a time. This allows one to isolate the culprit(s) quickly. For ganged servos I start furthest from the fuse to set the surface where I want it. Then set the inner servo for minimum current. Kind of old school. But I believe in KISS and it works.
It was dead easy with the Weatroncs servo curve adjustments, 4096 0points IIRC, so should be no problem with Core.
Another current reduction techniqueI have found useful is to spray all moving parts of the control circuit with silicone spray as used on plastic curtain rails, results can be quite amazing and costs nothing.
I have heard of a couple of Airworld Hawks being lost due stab. failure, I am fairly sure this was due to servo failure due mismatch resulting in servo burnout and lockup.
Perhaps another advantage of using dual ammeters and a radio capable of making tiny sdjustments is to adjust travel points of one servo until the current just starts to rise a tiny amount. This compensates for any gear lash and reduces the chance of control surface flutter developing.
Mine are still going strong after 12 years, touch wood !
Anyway, back to my morning coffee !
Last edited by David Gladwin; 07-18-2020 at 01:33 AM.
#9

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I agree with both above - an ammeter on the servos to match for reduced load and no fighting. It also helps you identify when a single servo is working too hard on a surface that is sticking, or driven against the stops.
Unfortunately, the Hanger 9 ammeter is no longer available and I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement that is as easy to connect. Anyone know of one?
Bob
Unfortunately, the Hanger 9 ammeter is no longer available and I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement that is as easy to connect. Anyone know of one?
Bob
#10

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I agree with both above - an ammeter on the servos to match for reduced load and no fighting. It also helps you identify when a single servo is working too hard on a surface that is sticking, or driven against the stops.
Unfortunately, the Hanger 9 ammeter is no longer available and I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement that is as easy to connect. Anyone know of one?
Bob
Unfortunately, the Hanger 9 ammeter is no longer available and I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement that is as easy to connect. Anyone know of one?
Bob

#11
Hi
When servos are matched at PB, there are only 3 points where they really match - Neutral and both end points. In my TD Hawk, I have 2 ganged servos in the stab, but I am connecting those to the PB to different channels and make the elevator function in a knob. Ithen match the servos in a PMix using 18 points in my 18MZ. Have done that in several planes with several hundreds of flights and no problems
Nuno
When servos are matched at PB, there are only 3 points where they really match - Neutral and both end points. In my TD Hawk, I have 2 ganged servos in the stab, but I am connecting those to the PB to different channels and make the elevator function in a knob. Ithen match the servos in a PMix using 18 points in my 18MZ. Have done that in several planes with several hundreds of flights and no problems
Nuno



