Assan AG63 Brake and Steering Gyro FRUSTRATION!!!
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Thanks for this thread. Couldn't find instructions for my AG68 and switched it to a new jet....the nose gear steering wouldn't work when it was plugged in as per the diagram.
Same problem as the OP.
Found the instructions to program or teach the unit. Worked fine on the AG68. All systems go on my BVM Maverick conversion to EDF. Thanks all. Lee
BTW it's 10:30 pm not 4:30am lol
Same problem as the OP.
Found the instructions to program or teach the unit. Worked fine on the AG68. All systems go on my BVM Maverick conversion to EDF. Thanks all. Lee
BTW it's 10:30 pm not 4:30am lol
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#30
I spent a bit of time on one of these today. I picked up the Ag 68. I got all the programing to work properly but I have two problems.
1. When brake is applied, it is the same for no matter how much I adjust the endpoints. In fact if I more the endpoints below 60 percent you can hear the brakes squealing even if there is no throttle applied.
2. I thought the gyro adjusted the brake power during stopping. When my brakes are activated, they are just on. It does not matter how much I move the gyro. I tried moving the gyro on the bench all sorts of ways and both brakes continue to engage. I assumed this worked similar to my Xicoy. If the plan drifts to the left, the right brake would engage more to keep the plane strait. Is this not the case?
Thanks,
Tone
1. When brake is applied, it is the same for no matter how much I adjust the endpoints. In fact if I more the endpoints below 60 percent you can hear the brakes squealing even if there is no throttle applied.
2. I thought the gyro adjusted the brake power during stopping. When my brakes are activated, they are just on. It does not matter how much I move the gyro. I tried moving the gyro on the bench all sorts of ways and both brakes continue to engage. I assumed this worked similar to my Xicoy. If the plan drifts to the left, the right brake would engage more to keep the plane strait. Is this not the case?
Thanks,
Tone
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How is the brake applied in your setup? Did you managed to adjust how the break clamped? Mine is like an on and off.. not a smooth breaking.
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thanks,
Tone
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you will not be able to differentiate the braking force without the model actually moving on the ground.
you can play all day trying to feel the differences in settings by hand and not make any progress at all.
find a big smooth flat space and you can just give it a hard firm push to get it rolling and apply the brakes.
get someone to move the model along and maybe even induce some off track force and you will be able to see the gyro effect.
you can play all day trying to feel the differences in settings by hand and not make any progress at all.
find a big smooth flat space and you can just give it a hard firm push to get it rolling and apply the brakes.
get someone to move the model along and maybe even induce some off track force and you will be able to see the gyro effect.
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you will not be able to differentiate the braking force without the model actually moving on the ground.
you can play all day trying to feel the differences in settings by hand and not make any progress at all.
find a big smooth flat space and you can just give it a hard firm push to get it rolling and apply the brakes.
get someone to move the model along and maybe even induce some off track force and you will be able to see the gyro effect.
you can play all day trying to feel the differences in settings by hand and not make any progress at all.
find a big smooth flat space and you can just give it a hard firm push to get it rolling and apply the brakes.
get someone to move the model along and maybe even induce some off track force and you will be able to see the gyro effect.
Thanks,
Tone
#39
I have the controller programmed correctly. I did the set up to reverse the direction of the nose gear and everything works fine. Its just that the steering servo still works when the gear is up. I tried 2 different AG63 and the same result. (AG63 Pro)
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Brakes not working
Hey I just got my ag63 installed and I used Ralph’s video. It’s great and everything works as far as gear and nose wheel steering and the gyro. The brakes never apply. I have tried the programming steps and no matter what, they never apply. I’m using a Jeti ds 16 and have my travel set to +-100 and they worked with the old controller. The red light on the gyro does come on when they are actuated by the switch I have assigned but again, never apply. Anyone run into something like this? Thanks!
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If they are JP Hobby brakes it may be a low voltage problem.
I have fought brake problems for years with the JP magnetic brakes. All of their controllers say that they work with 7.2v or maybe it's 7.4..... anyway. What I recently figured out is that they need a 2 cell lipo to be fresh of the charger to work (7.2v). When the voltage drops much below that, they work poorly if at all. All the adjustment of the little dial makes no difference. Since some of the controllers say they can work with higher voltage, I finally, out of desperation, tried a 3s lipo. Presto, everything started working, and the fine tuning that's available on some controllers actually made a difference. Of course you can also adjust the EPA, or travel settings to help also.
Now I can actually use and adjust my brakes. Its still a job to get them working smoothly, but it's possible. Hope this helps.
I have fought brake problems for years with the JP magnetic brakes. All of their controllers say that they work with 7.2v or maybe it's 7.4..... anyway. What I recently figured out is that they need a 2 cell lipo to be fresh of the charger to work (7.2v). When the voltage drops much below that, they work poorly if at all. All the adjustment of the little dial makes no difference. Since some of the controllers say they can work with higher voltage, I finally, out of desperation, tried a 3s lipo. Presto, everything started working, and the fine tuning that's available on some controllers actually made a difference. Of course you can also adjust the EPA, or travel settings to help also.
Now I can actually use and adjust my brakes. Its still a job to get them working smoothly, but it's possible. Hope this helps.
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I had the same problems with 2S LiPo batteries on my JP brakes. I then went to 3S LiPo using AG63 controller. Brakes worked perfect for several flights then failed completely. The brake side of the controller failed but steering stilled worked. I replaced it with the red JP brake control box on 3S. It lasted a couple of flights and fried and got so hot it was smelling and smoking. I now have a new AG63 back on 2S LiPo and brakes are working again but have very little braking power.
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Wow! That's good to know.
Maybe the solution is somewhere between 7v and 12v. Also a tight control of the voltage. So perhaps a bec with an adjustable voltage output, so that the needed voltage can be dialed in.
Maybe the solution is somewhere between 7v and 12v. Also a tight control of the voltage. So perhaps a bec with an adjustable voltage output, so that the needed voltage can be dialed in.
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I have the largerJP 4" wheel and brakes on my 1/6th F16. They would not engage unless the jet slowed down, usually when im at the end of the runway. I tried a 3s life still did not work. The larger JP brakes are a drum type and the magnets will not engage if the tire is spinning too fast. I finally found a set of SM F-16 air wheels and brakes that i fitted to the JP struts. They work great and stop the jet perfectly now.