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Old 01-12-2022, 08:22 PM
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Thanks for this thread. Couldn't find instructions for my AG68 and switched it to a new jet....the nose gear steering wouldn't work when it was plugged in as per the diagram.

Same problem as the OP.

Found the instructions to program or teach the unit. Worked fine on the AG68. All systems go on my BVM Maverick conversion to EDF. Thanks all. Lee

BTW it's 10:30 pm not 4:30am lol
Old 04-23-2022, 01:55 PM
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Hi, is it possible to adjust the breaking system of this AG63? I want to set a smooth or slow clamping break if possible
Old 04-23-2022, 04:20 PM
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There is no adjustment dial on the unit itself. You can adjust the power of braking with the transmitter.
Old 04-23-2022, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LLiddle
There is no adjustment dial on the unit itself. You can adjust the power of braking with the transmitter.
Thanks. I tried to adjust the end point, tried to mapped to a channel (slider) but no changed. Can you guide me how? I'm using a Futaba transmitter
Old 04-29-2022, 08:37 PM
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I spent a bit of time on one of these today. I picked up the Ag 68. I got all the programing to work properly but I have two problems.
1. When brake is applied, it is the same for no matter how much I adjust the endpoints. In fact if I more the endpoints below 60 percent you can hear the brakes squealing even if there is no throttle applied.
2. I thought the gyro adjusted the brake power during stopping. When my brakes are activated, they are just on. It does not matter how much I move the gyro. I tried moving the gyro on the bench all sorts of ways and both brakes continue to engage. I assumed this worked similar to my Xicoy. If the plan drifts to the left, the right brake would engage more to keep the plane strait. Is this not the case?
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Old 04-29-2022, 11:50 PM
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I have this unit installed in my L39 with Electron wheels and brakes and it works perfectly!
I have the AG63 installed in my Joker with JP units and it works as advertised.
Old 04-30-2022, 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob_B
I have this unit installed in my L39 with Electron wheels and brakes and it works perfectly!
I have the AG63 installed in my Joker with JP units and it works as advertised.
How is the brake applied in your setup? Did you managed to adjust how the break clamped? Mine is like an on and off.. not a smooth breaking.
Old 04-30-2022, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob_B
I have this unit installed in my L39 with Electron wheels and brakes and it works perfectly!
I have the AG63 installed in my Joker with JP units and it works as advertised.
I am using a AG68 but from what I underdtand it is supposed to work the same. The steering seems to work fine. The brakes seem to be the issue. On your jet, when the gyro or jet moves to the left or the right does you brake clamping force change?
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Old 04-30-2022, 07:35 AM
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All I can tell you is both jets stop straight.
Old 04-30-2022, 08:43 AM
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you will not be able to differentiate the braking force without the model actually moving on the ground.
you can play all day trying to feel the differences in settings by hand and not make any progress at all.
find a big smooth flat space and you can just give it a hard firm push to get it rolling and apply the brakes.
get someone to move the model along and maybe even induce some off track force and you will be able to see the gyro effect.
Old 04-30-2022, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mongo
you will not be able to differentiate the braking force without the model actually moving on the ground.
you can play all day trying to feel the differences in settings by hand and not make any progress at all.
find a big smooth flat space and you can just give it a hard firm push to get it rolling and apply the brakes.
get someone to move the model along and maybe even induce some off track force and you will be able to see the gyro effect.
Fair enough. When I finish my build I will give it a shot. The programming was not nearly as bad as I was led to believe and the steering looks like it will work well.

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Old 05-27-2022, 01:48 PM
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How do you stop the steering function when the gear is retracted?
Old 05-27-2022, 01:57 PM
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When the programming is correct the nose wheel centers just before retraction and no longer responds to Rudder inputs
Old 05-27-2022, 02:01 PM
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I have the controller programmed correctly. I did the set up to reverse the direction of the nose gear and everything works fine. Its just that the steering servo still works when the gear is up. I tried 2 different AG63 and the same result. (AG63 Pro)
Old 05-30-2022, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by timLQ
I have the controller programmed correctly. I did the set up to reverse the direction of the nose gear and everything works fine. Its just that the steering servo still works when the gear is up. I tried 2 different AG63 and the same result. (AG63 Pro)
Worst case scenario….just make a mix and used the retract switch to turn it off…..
Old 10-13-2022, 11:23 AM
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Hey I just got my ag63 installed and I used Ralph’s video. It’s great and everything works as far as gear and nose wheel steering and the gyro. The brakes never apply. I have tried the programming steps and no matter what, they never apply. I’m using a Jeti ds 16 and have my travel set to +-100 and they worked with the old controller. The red light on the gyro does come on when they are actuated by the switch I have assigned but again, never apply. Anyone run into something like this? Thanks!
Old 10-13-2022, 12:01 PM
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Post a photo of your brake connection at the controller. Do you have an external battery connected the ag63?
Old 10-13-2022, 12:19 PM
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Old 10-14-2022, 09:02 PM
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If they are JP Hobby brakes it may be a low voltage problem.
I have fought brake problems for years with the JP magnetic brakes. All of their controllers say that they work with 7.2v or maybe it's 7.4..... anyway. What I recently figured out is that they need a 2 cell lipo to be fresh of the charger to work (7.2v). When the voltage drops much below that, they work poorly if at all. All the adjustment of the little dial makes no difference. Since some of the controllers say they can work with higher voltage, I finally, out of desperation, tried a 3s lipo. Presto, everything started working, and the fine tuning that's available on some controllers actually made a difference. Of course you can also adjust the EPA, or travel settings to help also.
Now I can actually use and adjust my brakes. Its still a job to get them working smoothly, but it's possible. Hope this helps.
Old 10-15-2022, 04:38 PM
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I had the same problems with 2S LiPo batteries on my JP brakes. I then went to 3S LiPo using AG63 controller. Brakes worked perfect for several flights then failed completely. The brake side of the controller failed but steering stilled worked. I replaced it with the red JP brake control box on 3S. It lasted a couple of flights and fried and got so hot it was smelling and smoking. I now have a new AG63 back on 2S LiPo and brakes are working again but have very little braking power.
Old 10-16-2022, 12:35 PM
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Wow! That's good to know.
Maybe the solution is somewhere between 7v and 12v. Also a tight control of the voltage. So perhaps a bec with an adjustable voltage output, so that the needed voltage can be dialed in.
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try 9.6-10
Old 10-16-2022, 09:16 PM
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Have you run into this problem too, Mongo?
Old 10-17-2022, 02:41 AM
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I have the largerJP 4" wheel and brakes on my 1/6th F16. They would not engage unless the jet slowed down, usually when im at the end of the runway. I tried a 3s life still did not work. The larger JP brakes are a drum type and the magnets will not engage if the tire is spinning too fast. I finally found a set of SM F-16 air wheels and brakes that i fitted to the JP struts. They work great and stop the jet perfectly now.
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only on the bench so far, but the regulator set to just under/around 10 seems to be working without burning things up


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