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Old 05-16-2022, 10:24 AM
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During approximately 80th flight, this Futaba digital 3151 aileron servo failed during travel, stopping nearly at the end of travel but not quite. Gear train feels good. Programming limits were well short of any physical limit (no binding) and this servo only ever saw 6v. Servo won’t travel in either direction but if I unplug it and move it manually to any point, it holds that point solidly one plugged in again.

I am replacing the other 3 servos in that wing as well now out of caution, but am curious to see if someone here with more experience has thoughts regarding the failure mode.

As always, my thanks for your inputs!
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Probably just had a servo go bad, it happens.

I'm curious, you're in the jet forum, are you using 30 dollar sport servos in a jet?
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Originally Posted by highhorse
During approximately 80th flight, this Futaba digital 3151 aileron servo failed during travel, stopping nearly at the end of travel but not quite. Gear train feels good. Programming limits were well short of any physical limit (no binding) and this servo only ever saw 6v. Servo won’t travel in either direction but if I unplug it and move it manually to any point, it holds that point solidly one plugged in again.

I am replacing the other 3 servos in that wing as well now out of caution, but am curious to see if someone here with more experience has thoughts regarding the failure mode.

As always, my thanks for your inputs!
I have seen flutter damage the servo
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Originally Posted by FenderBean
I have seen flutter damage the servo
That's a good point
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Different servo (Hitec HS-81) in a different application (aileron servo on an electric model) but exactly
the same failure mode. Thankfully the model has two aileron servos.

It sounds like the same part failed, IC I suspect, nothing else found wrong with it. Like BarracudaHockey
said simply a servo failure, thankfully it doesn't happen too often & sometimes a servo will give you some
warning. My beater model for testing radio gear had the elevator servo not return to neutral in the same
position every time. The important thing is to heed the warning & replace it immediately.

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Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey
Probably just had a servo go bad, it happens.

I'm curious, you're in the jet forum, are you using 30 dollar sport servos in a jet?
I figured someone would ask that…I am raised the question in the jet forum for several reasons:
1) Y’all tend to be among the most experienced
2) The servo failure mode needn’t have been jet-specific, or foamie, giant scale, etc…
3) Yes, it’s an inexpensive servo in a jet. A lightly loaded, draggy, under powered, slow jet. Slower than some of the proppies I’ve flown. The only thing “jet” about it is the noise that comes out of the back ;-)
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Originally Posted by FenderBean
I have seen flutter damage the servo
I neither saw or heard evidence of flutter. Coulda happened, but I doubt it. Thanks tho!
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Originally Posted by Boomerang1
Different servo (Hitec HS-81) in a different application (aileron servo on an electric model) but exactly
the same failure mode. Thankfully the model has two aileron servos.

It sounds like the same part failed, IC I suspect, nothing else found wrong with it. Like BarracudaHockey
said simply a servo failure, thankfully it doesn't happen too often & sometimes a servo will give you some
warning. My beater model for testing radio gear had the elevator servo not return to neutral in the same
position every time. The important thing is to heed the warning & replace it immediately.
Roger that. I always 100% act asap if I suspect a part is going south. Especially servos. This one gave no warning that I noticed. As far as I could tell, it worked fine until it did t’s at all. I think your IC scenario is entirely plausible in me case as well. Thanks for the input.

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