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Old 01-06-2023 | 11:03 AM
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Just me but i would rather mix the fuel for immediate use. Having it sit there for months mixed doesnt seem like a good idea to me.
‘I’m pretty sure it doesn’t matter if you do a treatment with JBBior and it stay in a temp control place….

‘I always fill all mine up before October…..since they change the diesel to winter diesel where I live….and I don’t want to have that….in the spring I’m good for a little while…then I fill them as required….
Old 01-06-2023 | 12:41 PM
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Same here. Always add the quart before heading to fill up.
Old 01-06-2023 | 01:46 PM
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So there is no dye anyone is aware of ?
Old 01-06-2023 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AEROSHELDON
So there is no dye anyone is aware of ?
I use a bottle of BioBor mix that I have added dye to, this then dyes the fuel. Since I always add the BioBor and oil at the same time I am covered.
Search for Kero dye, there are lots of places that sell dyes of any color to color the kero in decorative oil lamps. You need VERY LITTLE to dye the fuel.

For the BioBor mix I use 1 oz BioBor to 15 oz of fuel and a few drops of dye. this mixture is then the recommended dosage for 1 oz to treat 5 gallons of fuel. I use one of the bottles that has the built in one oz measuring cup for measuring out the dose for the 5 gal fuel jug.

If you are using jugs of oil you could add the dye right to the oil jug.
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Old 01-06-2023 | 04:39 PM
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Thanks!!
Old 01-07-2023 | 04:39 AM
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Just put a few ounces of unoiled fuel in a glass jar. Then put a similar amount of suspect oil in a similar jar.
The oiled fuel will probably look slightly orange / brown in colour.
Standing both glasses in sunshine will probably enhance the coloration due the effect of UV on the oil which darkens it.
Works on the oil I use, Turbonycoil and probably similar other oils used in full size jets, BP Exon, Mobil.
Old 01-07-2023 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by David Gladwin
Just put a few ounces of unoiled fuel in a glass jar. Then put a similar amount of suspect oil in a similar jar.
The oiled fuel will probably look slightly orange / brown in colour.
Standing both glasses in sunshine will probably enhance the coloration due the effect of UV on the oil which darkens it.
Works on the oil I use, Turbonycoil and probably similar other oils used in full size jets, BP Exon, Mobil.
Lots of guys running diesel now so there is no way to tell.
Old 01-07-2023 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Vincent
Lots of guys running diesel now so there is no way to tell.
Yes but the OP states he is using Jet A,as do I , so I answered his question !!!!!!
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Old 01-07-2023 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dansy
‘I’m pretty sure it doesn’t matter if you do a treatment with JBBior and it stay in a temp control place….
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So do you get BioBor additive from in Ontario? Been looking around here and it's hard to find!


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Around here most marine supply stores carry it. Or you can order it from Amazon:
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Originally Posted by Vincent
Lots of guys running diesel now so there is no way to tell.
For a lot of years, JetCat said no to diesel. A few years ago they said "okay". I've been messing with JetCats for the last several years, JetCat has since removed the approval to run diesel and in my experience with the models I've given away (I'm old, Estate deal) the JetCats WILL NOT like desel) in fact, this guy I gave the models to cannot even get them to run owing to a change in field elvation and the fact that he INSISTS on buying diesel because his Jet Central engines and KingTech engines will run it. The JecCats will NOT play with diesel, at least low sulphur USA diesel, which is not nearly as good as the Europeans have available.
Old 01-08-2023 | 03:15 AM
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For a lot of years, JetCat said no to diesel. A few years ago they said "okay". I've been messing with JetCats for the last several years, JetCat has since removed the approval to run diesel and in my experience with the models I've given away (I'm old, Estate deal) the JetCats WILL NOT like desel) in fact, this guy I gave the models to cannot even get them to run owing to a change in field elvation and the fact that he INSISTS on buying diesel because his Jet Central engines and KingTech engines will run it. The JecCats will NOT play with diesel, at least low sulphur USA diesel, which is not nearly as good as the Europeans have available.
I run jetcats and have stayed with kero. I dont like the oily smell of diesel and wouldnt switch even my motors would run on it. Some cats will run on diesel others will not its trial and error type thing.
Old 01-08-2023 | 01:08 PM
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JetCat's stance last indicated is JetA and or Kerosene are best and they don't recommend diesel. Given that quality may vary from station to station with diesel I can see why they say that.
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Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey
JetCat's stance last indicated is JetA and or Kerosene are best and they don't recommend diesel. Given that quality may vary from station to station with diesel, I can see why they say that.
The same can be said about Jeta and Kerosene if your purchase from a big bulk store and not from a petroleum distributor the quality is a lot different.
Few guys use the Mr funnel, which separates water from any fuel, it's recommended to filter every time you mix fuel.
Diesel is harder to start in cooler weather and is just dirtier fuel and smokes alot.
Old 01-09-2023 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Skunkwrks
The same can be said about Jeta and Kerosene if your purchase from a big bulk store and not from a petroleum distributor the quality is a lot different.
Few guys use the Mr funnel, which separates water from any fuel, it's recommended to filter every time you mix fuel.
Diesel is harder to start in cooler weather and is just dirtier fuel and smokes alot.
Your pretty wrong about Jet 1A it’s the same not only within the country…..but within the world, I have burn a lots of Jet 1A
Old 01-15-2023 | 03:34 PM
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Your pretty wrong about Jet 1A it’s the same not only within the country…..but within the world, I have burn a lots of Jet 1A
Okay I guess the aviation fuel is highly checked for quality; some guys have purchased five gallons of Kerosene from Home Depot and had water in it . They also forgot to filter the filter with Mr Funnel to remove the water contamination and had two hours running with failed take-offs attempts as the turbine won't hold a setting. which to fresh JetA and all was good. You have good sources for fuel quality.
Old 01-15-2023 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Skunkwrks
Okay I guess the aviation fuel is highly checked for quality; some guys have purchased five gallons of Kerosene from Home Depot and had water in it . They also forgot to filter the filter with Mr Funnel to remove the water contamination and had two hours running with failed take-offs attempts as the turbine won't hold a setting. which to fresh JetA and all was good. You have good sources for fuel quality.
‘Yes a truck stop close to where I live……there’s always at least 5-10 trucks filling or in line to fill up day and nights….

I used diesel…..I didn’t talked about kero…don’t know, since I have zero interest to use it…even at some even they give 5 gallons of jet fuel free I gave mine away I pretty much hate the smell of jet fuel.
Old 01-16-2023 | 11:13 AM
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So you only burn diesel fuel and have good performance that's great. Getting fuel from a busy truck stop is the best way to ensure good quality, probably go through four to six superbee trailers of fuel in a day so 254000- 381000 liter.
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My jet A is $5.42 a gallon. I also run the Jetcat oil which has that additive for static. Most of the diesel guys don’t have that additive because they use 2 stroke oil. My engine can run on diesel but I’ve never tried it. Diesel here is like $4.99 a gallon. JetCentral engine is what I have.
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Originally Posted by ledd4u
My jet A is $5.42 a gallon. I also run the Jetcat oil which has that additive for static. Most of the diesel guys don’t have that additive because they use 2 stroke oil. My engine can run on diesel but I’ve never tried it. Diesel here is like $4.99 a gallon. JetCentral engine is what I have.
2 Stroke Oil LOL y’a ok, I run Kingtech oil…..my engines run on all fuel, but I would have to drive quite a way to get jetA1 and I don’t like the smell…it remind me of working….and for the prices…that doesn’t matter to me at all…..

In the jet only club I fly, I don’t think anyone is using 2 Stroke oil…don’t know where you take that from….
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Using two-stroke oil will not lubricate as well.. quite a few manufacturers don't suggest using it. Might be sending it in before that 25 hour mark with 2-stroke oil Lol.
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Well, seem JetCentral does allow for two-stroke oil ...... okay.
I stand corrected .... just weird!!
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Correct. They say all is fine with it. Again never tried diesel so it’s all convince driven. Does the king tech oil have that static additive inside? BVM sells it. My point is if that static additive needed or not? If it is, then that also has to be calculated in the cost per gallon for me. Everyone used that jet a turbine oil. Then someone said it was bad for you etc. Soon someone will say something else.
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Don’t feel any need for anti static stuff….since I don’t any problems..
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This what the site says about Kingtech oil:

Excellent Air Release and Anti-Foaming and Anti-Static Properties
Careful use of additives to ensure quick air release without foaming while prevent static buildup. Quick air release helps minimize cavitation and slow oxidation, maintaining system performance. New zinc/phosphorous additive to minimize wear in high speed
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