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Old 12-19-2003, 11:15 PM
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Default House of Balsa F-86

I picked up one of these old kits and was wondering what to power it with? I looks to be the same wingspan as the JHH F-86 50" but I don't think the fuse is the same size. I can't see putting a 5" diameter fan in it. The instructions call out a midwest Rk-20B with a k&b 3.5. Anyone think that a turbax fan will fit. The BVM fan is a smaller diameter but that would probably be overkill. Any ideas.
Old 12-21-2003, 05:11 PM
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I guess no one has ever built one of these
Old 12-21-2003, 08:06 PM
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Default RE: House of Balsa F-86

I built one many moons ago.I ran a turbax 1 and a 7.5 K&B with the ole Perry pump,now those were the days.I installed a intake,to get some performance out of it.Had to use slimline retracts on it,monokoted the wing to keep it lite.

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Old 12-21-2003, 08:24 PM
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Default RE: House of Balsa F-86

I also had one with a Turbax and 7.5 and Perry pump [sm=thumbdown.gif]. I ended up putting an OS 1.08 carb (forgot the number now) and it ran awesome. I can tell you that it would not fly with the canopy hatch on even with cheater holes. It flew just fine with it off however. It just couldn't get enough air with it on. I ended up losing it due to a broken throttle linkage.

I would say if you could get the proper fan and a .25 it would be great or if you go with the Turbax etc., just make sure it can suck some air. BTW, mine was fixed gear and monocoated wing.

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Old 12-21-2003, 09:36 PM
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I had one long ago. Turbax 1 with a K&B 7.5. It flew fine on this combo-What you need to do if you go this route is install the cheater hole in the bottom of the wing and mount blow in doors on the front behind the gun panels. You also need to cut the hatch back further than shown on the plans. I have seen them fly with the .21 engine and fan. (that is what it is designed for, and it is quite a bit smaller than the JHH 86) If you use the .21 you need to make it as light as poss. fixed gear, monokote etc. Scott
Old 12-21-2003, 10:12 PM
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Default RE: House of Balsa F-86

I had one with a kress 740 fan and a K&B 7.5
It did'nt last long.
After I trimmed it out, I climbed into a split S, when I pulled through the bottom the right half of the wing came off and that was that.
Old 12-23-2003, 08:57 PM
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I think I might try a kress RK-740 with a OS 46 VXDF. The unit is only 4.25 dia. and their website shows a power curve for the fan and it looks like it will make about 8lbs of thrust with the engine. If I fully duct the intake would I still need the blow in doors and the aux intake through the wing???
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Default RE: House of Balsa F-86

The kress fan is so aggresively pitched, that it will get the air in anyway. I ain't too familiar with the HOB setup, but my HB A7, I blocked off the side "cheater" inlets.
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Old 02-01-2004, 04:28 AM
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your best bet is to use a kress fan.
Old 02-13-2004, 04:39 PM
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Default RE: House of Balsa F-86

that sucks! what happen just didnt build it strong enough? the only time Ive ever had a a plane lose a wing was a .60size ARF p-51. and the wings were foam core with plastic covering.. did a split -s and the bolts holding the wing on, stripped through the plastic/foam wing!! then you have a $600.00 scud missile.. [] I feel your pain..
Old 02-11-2006, 07:22 PM
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Help! - Need HOB F-86 Rudder !!!!

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ok so im building the kit and find out the the rudder is missing ,, i dont even have the slightes clue on how to make one (shape) fi some one can scan or evern send me a traced outline of the it i would realy apresiated i might even kick in some cash



can you help i know its an old post but its worth a try
Old 02-21-2006, 07:18 PM
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I'm building the HOB kit right now also, hope to have it done by spring. The kit stock, is rudderless, It wont really need one, just the outline on the vertical tail looks to be just drawn on with a graphic pen. My kit didn't come with one either.
Old 03-11-2006, 07:17 PM
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got it almost done
Old 03-11-2006, 09:21 PM
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What retracts did you use? Are you using the RK-20B fan and the OS25 df engine?
Old 03-11-2006, 09:36 PM
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yes its the rk20b fan the the modified os 25 I'm using the EJF retracts witch are great quality i flew it once already but had a dead stick (pipe came off) it did vary well its been Windy here so i haven't flown it no more 25 to 30 mph winds

its at 5 lb exactly,, dry
Old 03-11-2006, 10:54 PM
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Default RE: House of Balsa F-86

littlepiston,
Why didn't you put the fuel tanks under the fan unit in the wing where they are suppose to go?
Looks good!
Bob
Old 03-11-2006, 10:56 PM
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about the tanks see the engine is modified to the max sucking fuel is not its priority no more you have to almost feed it lol thats why
Old 03-11-2006, 11:05 PM
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Nice work We manufacture the F-86 kit now www.ejf.com for the past 4 years and mostly electric ducted fan and very few glow. It's a great 50's jet and one we enjoy. It's been updated with foam core wings, sheeting included and laser cut formers and tail group. We do offer a build service and pre-assembled options to save time.

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Old 03-11-2006, 11:07 PM
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yeap thats for supling the wings and retracs grreat service
Old 03-11-2006, 11:10 PM
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Your welcome. Don't forget you can always convert that to EDF in the future.

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Old 03-11-2006, 11:23 PM
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EDF/??? or kero????
Old 03-11-2006, 11:55 PM
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Default RE: House of Balsa F-86

EDF of course. Micro Turbine is possible but over 3 times as much. of course you can't beat the real Turbine sound. (Yet)

We have an economy power package that produces 5 lbs. of static thrust and is about $600 and a high performance setup producing 7 lbs. of static thrust for about $900 (different fan/motor) - both range in flight times of 7 to 10 minutes depending on throttle management. We do this as part of our "Charge & Fly combos"

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Old 03-12-2006, 12:03 AM
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ill keep it in mind
Old 03-12-2006, 02:07 AM
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Default RE: House of Balsa F-86

Stuff an MW44 in it.... Might fit???
Old 03-12-2006, 02:10 AM
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whats the idle thrust on the 44?


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