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Old 01-12-2004 | 01:44 AM
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Got a question maybe somebody can answer,is the 55lb rule just for turbine aircraft or is that for all AMA aircraft ,large scale,multi engine and the like.


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Old 01-12-2004 | 02:27 AM
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The 55 pound rule is for all aircraft EXCEPT those under the special experimental rules which can be as large as 100 pounds. The experimental class specifically EXCLUDES jets. If you think waiver holders are hard to find, there are 11 individuals with permits for experimental aircraft currently.

For more info: http://www.modelaircraft.org/templat...-files/549.pdf
Old 01-12-2004 | 02:45 AM
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The reason I asked,I think there are alot of people unaware of the new wieght rule,just checked with a few multi engine guys and large scale,and they still though it was 70 lbs.I'm sure there not going to be to happy to find out that the plane they just built is going to be illegal according to the new rules.

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Old 01-12-2004 | 08:51 AM
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The rule has been 55 pounds for as long as I can remember.


The "vote" was really just a questionaire given to anyone who came to the rules seminar.

One thing I forgot...Carl Maroney made a point to mention that he had indeed been to a jet rally. Heart of Ohio if I recall correctly.

He said that he does not remember seeing a safer group of fliers at any event he had been too. He said in other circumstances he does not like to go to the flightline, but at this event he felt very comfortable. I thought that was a great thing to say.
Old 01-12-2004 | 06:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: mr_matt

One thing I forgot...Carl Maroney made a point to mention that he had indeed been to a jet rally. Heart of Ohio if I recall correctly.

He said that he does not remember seeing a safer group of fliers at any event he had been too. He said in other circumstances he does not like to go to the flightline, but at this event he felt very comfortable. I thought that was a great thing to say.
Carl was a Heart of Ohio in 2002. I, as well as others, talked to him at length. At that time, my main concern was the turbine waiver process. I also talked to him about the fact that if jet fliers needed "competency" testing (suggested flight schedule for waiver), then there was a larger need for 1st time prop fliers and helicopter pilots since the majority of accidents and near accidents, I witnessed, involved those types of fliers.

As you can see, we are still the ones being targeted for providing the "most risk" to our fellow AMA members and AMA's long term viability. It just depends on how you view "liability / risk management" ie. one serious jet crash in the future or many death or near death crashes (and perhaps property lawsuits) from the other "98 percenters."

Just my thoughts .......
Old 01-12-2004 | 07:08 PM
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Let me see if I get this right. If a mandatory speed limiter is in the new rules, regardless of the top speed of the airframe, and you don't fly a Jetcat or BMT you have to by the Mini Hobby speed controller? Has anyone at AMA addressed the legal implications of requiring that a specific companies equipment be used? I mean this isn't like the engine approval process, where you have to choose from a list of approved engines and know what these choices are before you buy, in this case there is only one piece available. This would mean forcing people to buy a product from only one supplier. In addition, what is the liability implication if this mandated component causes a crash and claim? Wouldn't that increase the possibility of a large damage award in a suit? Lastly, and I have no personal experience with this product, but has anyone thought about why there are 150 in stock?
Old 01-12-2004 | 09:20 PM
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I think, if I read this right, they dropped the speed limiter.[8D]
Old 01-12-2004 | 10:25 PM
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ORIGINAL: mr_matt

One thing I forgot...Carl Maroney made a point to mention that he had indeed been to a jet rally. Heart of Ohio if I recall correctly.
I spoke with Carl last year (2003) at the following jet events:

Hearts Of Ohio
Jets Over the Heartland (Winnamac)
Ozark Mtn Jets Sullevian Mo.

I think he was at Michigan Jets last year or year before last.

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