Hi Jets,

I've read about other modelers using Modelmaster paints on their airplanes. Im thinking about using this on my DF, because the colors are already there, and the matte finish is second to none!

What kind of clear cote can I use to fuel proof the finish?. I normally use 5% Nitro, 20% oil.

Also, are there any other tips I could use?

Thanks,

David

I have used 2060 Flex and Flat (PPG). THis stuff is dead flat and very easy to use. You can bring the sheen up by mixing 2010 or 2021 into the 2060 base. I think they all use the same catalyst (get it for the right temperature)

For the first coat if you put it on too thick it will attack the paint.......do that and you had better hope there are no little kids around when you let loose the expletives.

You have got to MIST on the first coat to stabilize the undercoat, then you can pour it on like normal. I love this stuff cause it will not run no matter what. Thin 200% with the correct temperature reducer, go for maybe 2-3 light coats.

David
I've used the Acrylic . It's great, never clear coated Jet A doesn't seem to effect it. don't know about testors enamel ?
Semper Fi
Joe
PS the small bottles are a PIA

I used MM on my F-15. I reduced it 50% and shot it on with an HVLP gun. I used the 2060 to protect the Aeroloft transfers. Went on great like Matt says.

Joe mentioned the small bottles. 1/2 oz are the biggest they come in and I used 12 bottles.....it was a pain in the butt. The finish came out pretty well though.

Thank you guys,

On the bottom of the fuselage and wings I will be using HVLP for the light gray portion and the primer stage, on the rest of the model I will be patiently using a Badger compressor and a Model Master detailing airbrush. I will then use a medium size nozzle to draw the cammo pattern, and then proceed to use the large nozzle to "fill in the pattern". I have already used this detailing gun and works awesome on small jobs, like painting wheel doors in place, I have even painted the scale gear on y BVM F-16 in place.

With so many colors and my cammo, I figure 3 bottles of each of the 4 colors should be sufficient, and very affordable too. It would cost me a lot more to have the auto shop match the colors on 1or 1/2 pint bottles of Omega, or Centari. Not to mention all the paint that will be unused/wasted.

This will be one awesome paint job. Will keep you posted.

David

David,

Are you using the acrylic or enamel paints???

Rgds,
Mark

Mark,

It will be Enamel, since Acrylics are not available in the colors that I need. Besides, wouldn't glow fuel ruin Acrylic?

Sorry, my mistake - missed the DF bit - I was thinking turbine - don't think JetA1 or kerosene attacks acrylic??

Nice scheme by the way!

David,
Model Masters has great pre-mixed military colors, that looks great. But take Mr_Matt advice and use a good auto clear on top. It won't hold up to glow fuel. (Know this from personal experience.) I also read on another thread awhile ago, that some people have used Nelson Hobby clear, if you don't want to work with auto paint clears. They say it doesn't yellow and holds up to glow fuel well.

Hope this helps,

Steven T.

Steven,

Thanks for the tip, I will consdier that option too. I've heard that autoshop clear coats are very Noscive, and I can only wotk on my garage with the door open at best. Is the Nelson clearcoat as noscive as PPG?

Thanks,

David

Dave,

I'm still very much in the learning stage when it comes to painting. But I've own two jets that were painted with Model master paints by the previous builder. I've learned to do my own touch up work using Model Master paints, but like I said from my earlier post it not fuel proof. On one of my jets the previous owner had a gear up landing and burned through the clear exposing the paint.(I don't believe it was an auto clear because there is a slight tint of yellow to it). When it was shipped to me the hopper tank leaked fuel on the exposed paint, destroying the paint job. I've had to re-paint the bottom from that situation. On my other jet, I keep it looking in showroom condition by touching it up when needed with the modelmaster paint. I've talked to the original painter/builder who stated he used auto clear on this one. I can tell that it's harder and holds up much better in protecting the paint. I've been using the same clear he used when touching up the jet.
I did some research a while ago trying to find a less toxic paint then auto paints, and some people were saying Nelson paints and clears are less toxic and hold up well to fuel when cleared. I've decided to stick with the Modelmaster paints because it's less toxic then auto paint but will still carefully use auto clears for my next project. At least half the job won't kill me..
Here is the link about Nelson paints and clears.
http://nelsonhobby.com/paint.html
Hope this helps,

Steven T.

Thanks, Steve. I can't wait to syart painting my Falcon. I will practice with my Agressir III this weekend.

David