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Old 07-10-2002, 04:06 AM
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You good guys got any thoughts on how to adapt a P120 to Pat's (PCM Models) AV8R. One suggested adding some length to the nose. Any other thoughts on how to do it. I got all the electronics I need sitting in a box looking for a new fun fly project. I guess as Tam said “I like to wrench”

Disclaimer: I can dial down the thrust but need to adapt to the weight.
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Set your replicating machine to 2X and push "Go".

The AV8R is a wonderful design for the smaller turbines, but I think it would be very foolish to attempt to strap a KJ-66 size engine on the back of one of them.
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Set your replicating machine to 2X and push "Go".

The AV8R is a wonderful design for the smaller turbines, but I think it would be very foolish to attempt to strap a KJ-66 size engine on the back of one of them.
So what your saying is it's just to small for the extra weight?
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Yes,
Too small for the extra weight, too light for the extra power.
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Yes,
Too small for the extra weight, too light for the extra power.
The power I can control, the weight I can't. Major bummer. I really like his design a bunch. He has a good idea working for him.
Old 07-10-2002, 04:31 AM
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At one point Pat did mention that he was considering making a larger one for 17lb thrust engines, but I don't know how serious he was about it.

I think it is a really ugly airplane, but if he were to make one for the larger engines I would definately buy one, because looks aside it does appear to be a great flying airplane and it would make a great weekend beater, or system testbed.
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Ken, if you add frontal area (extend the nose) to the AV8R to give yourself more ballast ahead of the CG, you will reduce stability in pitch & yaw. It may still be adequate, but it will be less. And then again, you may need to add tail volume to keep it adequate. Just something to be aware of.
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Ken, if you add frontal area (extend the nose) to the AV8R to give yourself more ballast ahead of the CG, you will reduce stability in pitch & yaw. It may still be adequate, but it will be less. And then again, you may need to add tail volume to keep it adequate. Just something to be aware of.
Woketman: It's probably hopeless. Just to much weight and size, but it sure could have been interesting.
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Ken, I would be rather easy to cut a foam wing a bit bigger and scratch a fuse to roughly end up with a bigger version.

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