byron f16 first flight today - need advice
07-16-2002, 02:27 PM
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byron f16 first flight today - need advice
i bought a pre owned byron f16 with hurricane fan and rossi 1.05....i ve been flying rc for 20 + years - but have very limited jet experience ( i flew a byron mig once)....im hoping to fly this evening if the weather cooperates..what should i look out for? im mainly concerned about a flame out....how hard is the plane to dead stick? any advice is appreciated......
07-16-2002, 04:32 PM
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Re: DEAD STICK
Originally posted by rcjetsaok
IF IT QUITS ON YOU, POINT IT DOWN QUICK
IF IT QUITS ON YOU, POINT IT DOWN QUICK
The aircaft will actually glide surprisingly well (unless you have an unusually heavy one), and all in all it is a very forgiving and well behaved model - that picth-up on deadstick is the only oddity. The hardest part about that (for me) was remembering that the flare on landing means using less down elevator - not using any up elevator.
Since you said you have only one other flight on a jet - the only other advice I would give you is to remember that you don't have propwash over the control surfaces - so expect the control response to be a bit "mushier" at low speed than you are used to with prop models.
Best of luck,
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byron f16 first flight today - need advice
In addition, do not forget to suck the gear up as soon as you get airborne. If you are going to fly off a grass field and notice that you are about to run out of space on takeoff, chop the throttle and go back immediately to full throttle and the airplane will rotate. Make sure you are not running the engine too lean on the ground. It will unload once airborne.
Good luck. If you have somebody with more Jet experience in your area, do not hesitate to ask for help before flying it.
Good luck. If you have somebody with more Jet experience in your area, do not hesitate to ask for help before flying it.
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appreciate all the advice....i am flying off concrete....and i have onboard needle valve adjustment....i am prepared to richen it up once airborn........btw - i was test running the motor last night...very strong....however - after a couple of minutes - i was running on high idle after alternating full throttle and idle- maybe 20 seconds on high idle - motor died.....do you suppose the engine died as a result of not getting enough airflow...ie plane is not moving?
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Re: f16
[QUOTE]Originally posted by edgreenlee
appreciate all the advice....i am flying off concrete....and i have onboard needle valve adjustment....i am prepared to richen it up once airborn........btw - i was test running the motor last night...very strong....however - after a couple of minutes - i was running on high idle after alternating full throttle and idle- maybe 20 seconds on high idle - motor died.....do you suppose the engine died as a result of not getting enough airflow...ie plane is not moving? [/QUOTE
On concrete, make sure you get all the ground speed as you can squeeze off the airplane before rotating.
If the engine died on high idle, it might be loading up. Have you tried the fuel line pinch test? What make/type of on-board needle valve are you using? BVM, JMP or stock?
appreciate all the advice....i am flying off concrete....and i have onboard needle valve adjustment....i am prepared to richen it up once airborn........btw - i was test running the motor last night...very strong....however - after a couple of minutes - i was running on high idle after alternating full throttle and idle- maybe 20 seconds on high idle - motor died.....do you suppose the engine died as a result of not getting enough airflow...ie plane is not moving? [/QUOTE
On concrete, make sure you get all the ground speed as you can squeeze off the airplane before rotating.
If the engine died on high idle, it might be loading up. Have you tried the fuel line pinch test? What make/type of on-board needle valve are you using? BVM, JMP or stock?
07-16-2002, 06:12 PM
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HIGH IDLE
IF THE ENGINE IDLES HIGH AFTER FULL POWER RUNNING, IT SOUNDS LEAN ON THE LOW END... A LEAN LOW END SETTING CAN BE FOUND BY WHAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED.. IT WILL KINDA "SING" AT IDLE.. LIKE IT'S WANTING TO GO TO LOW IDLE BUT CAN'T.. RITCHEN THE LOW END 1/8 OF TURN AND SEE IF THAT HELPS..DOUBLE CHECK YOUR HEAD BOLTS AS WELL!!!
GOOD LUCK
DAN M.
GOOD LUCK
DAN M.
