Hi

I have question for those that have been into jets longer than myself, can you tell me wether these 3 are capable of say winning the world jet masters scale competion being.

Yellow aircraft F18 twin
BVM F-4
Aviation Design F-16

Thanks

The AD F-16 is not truly a scale Jet starting from the landing Gear and make your way up.

The Yellow F-18 doesn't fall in the truly scale category along with the F-4 starting from the wings back. I've taken all my Jets and parked them next to the real ones and I can tell you that there isn't one Model out there that's truly scale. If you want a truly scale Jet you're gonna have to scratch build one and Good Luck. They make these models
to Fly so lots of mods are needed for them to fly as good as they do. I tell you this cause I own all three models that you're inquiring about and I love nothing but Scale Jets that is all you'll ever see in my hangar.


Just my $0.02 .............. Johnny Hernandez

PS. This was my opinion and only my opinion, this reply wasn't intended for the Clan to get all puffy, Thank you

Johnny, considering your experiance in Jet Scale models, your .02 is worth more than most people's .10

[8D] Thanks for your reply jetflyer24 I understand exactly what your saying and I would not attempt a scratch build. I guess you would have to try and make some modifications to try and atleast better your the model that you have purchased to resemble a full size one, any thoughts from anyone that has attemted this? Can you improve on the allready long and good work that the manufacturers have done??

You are the man!

Out of those 3 the BVM F-4 is certainly the most accurate however.

Thanks Doug,

So why is it that I have never seen say the BVM F-4 take away first place for the the past few years are threre still alot of flyers of the F-4 in the USA.?

My personal opinion is because there are better airplanes out there now such as the F-100 for example. Better scale outline, it's larger (easier to see), easier to fly, etc.

The BVM F4 is actually pretty good but can be improved in some areas and mine will be if I fly it in the next JWM. Mine is based on a USN F4J (you cannot use this kit to build an accurate Spey powered F4, the fuselage is very different) and the following need changing:
The nosecone profile , needs to be much more pointed at the front.
The front nose landing gear door is wrong shape.
Afterburner petals need much improving, and the intake lips need to be reprofiled, the model's are too thick.
Stab. is much thicker than scale, needs slotted leading edge.
Tyre profiles are hopeless (they look like slicks) and nosewheel profile is poor. (mainwheels are quite good)
The Fletcher tank profile is incorrect at the forward section.
The flaps and ailerons need reprofiling in plan view and a stub section needs to be added to the fuselage at the flap roots.
All trailing edges are too thick.
The canopy frame sits on top of the clear sections whereas the canopy frames and transparency should be flush. (the aerodynamic noise in a real jet cockpit with such a configuration would be horrendous)

There is an F4J at the American museum at Duxford.

I would add that these are relatively minor changes to what is basically a very good model indeed (flies great) to bring it up to a serious and competitive standard for the JWM.

Regards,

David Gladwin

What in Hades is "the Clan"???????? Is there a vacination for it? This "puffiness" condition sounds fatal......

randy