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Old 10-05-2004 | 02:22 PM
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You may have seen this video before, but i got no idea

http://vk1.gotdns.com/wren/Paul%20l39%20v2.wmv

rightclick --> save targert as.

Now thats a fast jet!!!!
Old 10-05-2004 | 03:08 PM
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Are your connection very slow...?

It is downloading at only 250 bytes/sec and will take 3 hours...[X(]
Old 10-05-2004 | 03:16 PM
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lol yes, im on 576kbps line, and with alot downloading at the same time, its slow! its a pain, but there is nothing i can do about it, sorry.
Old 10-05-2004 | 06:06 PM
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Downloads are quicker if you use DAP ( Download Accelerator Plus)
This is free software that hits the site with more than one connection.
Old 10-07-2004 | 03:35 AM
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i just test the connection speed at school. it was downloading at 100kb/s !! (but i live about 10mins away from the house.)

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Old 10-07-2004 | 05:49 AM
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ORIGINAL: volkan

You may have seen this video before, but i got no idea

http://vk1.gotdns.com/wren/Paul%20l39%20v2.wmv

rightclick --> save targert as.

Now thats a fast jet!!!!
Yes, we have seen this before. Paul asked me to host it for him back in May and I made the link available in the L39 Wren 44 thread. You just picked it up from there and stuck it on your website. I don't want to be a killjoy and I certainly don't want to get at you, but it would be common curtesy to at least acknowledge the source/owner of the videos that you're (attempting) to host.

It's not my video so personally I don't have a beef with you about that, that's for Paul to take up with you directly - but Paul is a very easy going bloke so I don't suspect he has a problem with it either. Whilst I'm sure your intentions are honourable it doesn't serve anyone to direct folk to download from the VERY slow link that you're running, presumably from your home PC. You might have a 576kbps line (average home broadband cabel/DSL speed) but that will most likely be in one direction. You'll find your own upload bandwidth (which equates to download bandwidth for everyone else connecting to your "server") will be throttled by your ISP and will be significantly less - although will most likely be just fine for hosting text based forums.

My advise to you would be to use your ISP designated webspace for hosting stuff like videos, etc. You'll find that it should be more than adequate for the purpose of hosting high-bandwidth content, such as the 10Mb video that you've just posted a link to in a global forum, directing potentially thousands of people to an inadequate resource for such a purpose - all you're going to do is hack people off. The best I can get out of your connection is about 4kbps. Don't be surprise if your ISP gets the hump with you, as you might find you're breaching the terms of your ISP/Broadband agreement. The reason you can download with reasonable speed from your school is that your house and your school are probably on the same local circuit. It is also quite possible that you share the restricted upload bandwidth with everyone else on that same circuit - if that were the case I might get really hacked off if I was one of your neighbours. Just a thought.

I just downloaded the ME262 video and it took well over an hour to download a video that is less than 9Mb in size. For comparison, if you'd hosted this over a regular dialup connection it would be quicker as I believe that upload/download bandwidth ratios are the same for dialup - at 56K it would have taken about half an hour.

The original link to Paul Grey's L39 video is here :-

[link]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/phil.chisholm/videos/Paul%20l39%20v2.wmv[/link]

and as far as I'm concerned anyone can do with this (and others) as they please as the intention is to share it with everyone but it would be nice if they have advised the person that created them in the first place that they wish to host them elsewhere, and made sure that the resource that they wish to use is upto the task in the first place.

The stuff I have stored in that particular path was put there by me on request of the videos original creators and the only links to them were posted by me exist on RCUniverse, nowhere else - out of respect for the video creators I have not posted those URLs anywhere else. :-

Sorry to sound so pompus, it is not my intention, but you really need to rethink the type of data you're trying to share over the link that you have. Building new dedicated servers (as you mention on your website and elsewhere on RCUniverse) will not fix your problem as the issue is your available bandwidth not your hardware.

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Old 10-07-2004 | 07:33 AM
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I like the fact that volkan making a library of all videos on rcuniverse. He just need a faster connection. If he is selling these videos thats a problem. Its like putting up a bill board then getting mad when someone use the information from it.
Old 10-07-2004 | 07:37 AM
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Some more feedback for you.

I went to the "Watford Wayfarers" website as I wanted to find out about their club - I live in Watford. I notice that you also maintain that particular web site.

It ......... is .......... very .......... slow .........

I wanted to look at the map to find out where they are based and gave up as the map image seemed to be taking an enternity.

Sorry to be the barer of bad news.

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Old 10-07-2004 | 08:40 AM
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I like the fact that volkan making a library of all videos on rcuniverse. He just need a faster connection. If he is selling these videos thats a problem. Its like putting up a bill board then getting mad when someone use the information from it.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with the sentiment and I am not mad in the slightest - they're not my videos to get mad about. We're not talking about anything for commerical gain, or passing something off as your own as he hasn't done that. It is just good manners to let the originator know what your intentions are and simply acknowledge the source - it's pretty standard practise.

I would hate to think that someone experiencing problems downloading my own material (if I had any to offer) might make some connection between myself and a website starved of bandwidth. I applaud Volkan's efforts to do what he's trying to do, he is a young man with much talent, but the reason most of us pay for web-hosting companies to store our data is because we're not able to do it from our own machines. It has nothing to do with technology or experience, and everything to do with being able to obtain the correct resources and cost. If it were as simple as installing a few bits of software on our home machines then we'd all be hosting our own websites.

Incidently, Volkan, have a look at companies like streamlinenet.co.uk or uklinux.net for your web hosting requirements. They're real cheap.

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Old 10-07-2004 | 09:05 AM
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It is just good manners to let the originator know what your intentions are and simply acknowledge the source - it's pretty standard practise.
Guess it would,t hurt
Old 10-07-2004 | 09:48 AM
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It only took me 4 hours plus to download this video.....
Old 10-07-2004 | 11:21 AM
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Ok first of all,
Wren turbine has taken their videos off their server because of the bandwidth limit.
Now i tole them that they could host them on my server, so they transfered all thier videos to my server.
then i asked if i could post a couple of them on RCU, and their agreed to this, (and i thought people would understand when it says 'Paul Grey's L39
) so hear it is! I didn't want to start anything, and yes i do know it is slow,
Here is the problem, im aware that the upload speed is about 1/2 the download speed. I will contact BT tonight,
and see if they have any high upload speed packages, i have 50mb on a remote sever, i need to find a host
with an ulimited bandwidth package. It is early days, and i am trying, but i have to jugle this around with alot of
other stuff going on in my life.
As you can see im hosting alot of videos, now it will be almost impossible to get every name, but i will try to do my best,
also im sure that if your bandwidth is full, the server's CPU + RAM come into play.

Can you help me with hosting?

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Old 10-07-2004 | 11:23 AM
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as for watford wayfarers, its on the same server, it was on another sever, but they didn't have the
sofware i needed, if you are still intrested i will give you more information.
[email protected] email me.

Cheers
Volkan
Old 10-07-2004 | 06:28 PM
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Here is the problem, im aware that the upload speed is about 1/2 the download speed.
It's not, it is much less. If it were half then it would be much less obvious.

As you can see im hosting alot of videos, now it will be almost impossible to get every name, but i will try to do my best,
Good man!


also im sure that if your bandwidth is full, the server's CPU + RAM come into play.
It depends on how bandwidth is being throttled. If they "drop" packets, then yes it would cause an overhead since your host would be resending the same data. If it's done via an artificial latency then it won't as your host will simply being waiting for an "ack" before sending the next packet - if it takes a while for that to occur then that is where the latency is introduced and your machine won't be wasting extra processor cycles doing the same task. Eitherway, a faster CPU and more RAM won't speed anything up if your bandwidth is at capacity. If you don't address the bottleneck directly then you won't acheive anything. You'd be amazed as to the hardware you can use to host a web server receiving 1.5 million hits a month - it's a lot less than you think.

Can you help me with hosting?
I can't help you with hosting directly, but I use both the companies that I mentioned in my earlier message, as well as the various bits of web space that I have from various ISPs that I use. Incidently, you'd do yourself a big favour by ditching the BT broadband - I used it for a long time and since moving house last december I moved to NTL purely for broadband and nothing else. I have the 1.5Mbs service and it rocks. Their implentation of broadband is also streets ahead of anything that BT currently offer home users - I speak as an IT professional.

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Old 10-08-2004 | 01:40 AM
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i was thinking of getting a 1mbs line, but it is the same upload speed as 576, is NTL like this?
Old 10-08-2004 | 03:08 AM
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I believe that the 1.5Mbs service provides uplink speed of 256Kbs. But what you pay per month for that service you could get it hosted elsewhere for a whole year. It would be a false economy to get that service for that purpose alone.

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Old 10-08-2004 | 10:47 AM
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yes 576 is also upload of 256Kbs, (thats what BT say) i will ask if there are any high upload speed packages avalibale,

yes the would like some1 else to host it, however i will need a place with UNLIMITED BANDWIDTH.

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