A SCOTTISH BANDIT
05-19-2005, 10:57 AM
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A SCOTTISH BANDIT
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As it is chucking it down with rain here ( a typical Scottish spring day!) I decided to put a few hours on the Bandit and introduce Mr Wren to Mr Violett so to speak.
Being a Scottish tight purse this is the economy version and will not feature all those expensive BVM extras like bypasses, fuel cells and fancy landing gear which are designed to separate we Scots from our hard earned bawbees!
No sireee!! As we fly from a short tarmac / grass field with trees at one end the target is a light, nimble model which will be easy to maintain. It will have springairs with wire legs, no gear doors ( who sees the doors at 200mph?) a light Wren tailpipe, power will be a manual start Wren Supersport giving 19lbs of thrust ( another 12 oz saved on the battery) with home made fuel tanks.
The weight of the model as photographed including turbine is 10lbs 8ozs with a target of 17 / 18 lbs. Although this is a fine kit it has been labour intensive to build and I am glad the woodwork is now finished!The Wren sits in the fuz with plenty of room for access and I am anticipating seven minute flights on 1500cc of fuel plus 200cc hopper tank.
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As it is chucking it down with rain here ( a typical Scottish spring day!) I decided to put a few hours on the Bandit and introduce Mr Wren to Mr Violett so to speak.
Being a Scottish tight purse this is the economy version and will not feature all those expensive BVM extras like bypasses, fuel cells and fancy landing gear which are designed to separate we Scots from our hard earned bawbees!
No sireee!! As we fly from a short tarmac / grass field with trees at one end the target is a light, nimble model which will be easy to maintain. It will have springairs with wire legs, no gear doors ( who sees the doors at 200mph?) a light Wren tailpipe, power will be a manual start Wren Supersport giving 19lbs of thrust ( another 12 oz saved on the battery) with home made fuel tanks.
The weight of the model as photographed including turbine is 10lbs 8ozs with a target of 17 / 18 lbs. Although this is a fine kit it has been labour intensive to build and I am glad the woodwork is now finished!The Wren sits in the fuz with plenty of room for access and I am anticipating seven minute flights on 1500cc of fuel plus 200cc hopper tank.
John
05-19-2005, 11:25 AM
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RE: A SCOTTISH BANDIT
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Well done you. The question is how does it fly and cope with that grass run way of yours.
Being possessed of a Balsa Bandit kit and a SuperSport, which I have been minded to put in it, your leading the way is really helpful. I bought mine second hand and have most of the bits, so camparisons will be interesting.
Are you glassing as per the instructions or going for profilm?
Henry
Well done you. The question is how does it fly and cope with that grass run way of yours.
Being possessed of a Balsa Bandit kit and a SuperSport, which I have been minded to put in it, your leading the way is really helpful. I bought mine second hand and have most of the bits, so camparisons will be interesting.
Are you glassing as per the instructions or going for profilm?
Henry
05-19-2005, 11:26 AM
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Hi John,
congratulations on finding the time to build a Balsa B. I built one a while ago and it was like a never ending prison sentence for me as I dont like building. I see you have not used Aeropoxy? I could not get normal epoxy to stick to the BVM mouldings what did you used?
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congratulations on finding the time to build a Balsa B. I built one a while ago and it was like a never ending prison sentence for me as I dont like building. I see you have not used Aeropoxy? I could not get normal epoxy to stick to the BVM mouldings what did you used?
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05-19-2005, 11:36 AM
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I use ProSet epoxy which is an industrial epoxy specifically for fibreglass. I get it from Ian Nicoll at IAD Model Designs who uses it on his kits.
I clean the glass with acetone and rough up with sandpaper first of course.
It is pretty expensive BTW at £60 for the glue pack and gun (300cc's of glue)
John
I use ProSet epoxy which is an industrial epoxy specifically for fibreglass. I get it from Ian Nicoll at IAD Model Designs who uses it on his kits.
I clean the glass with acetone and rough up with sandpaper first of course.
It is pretty expensive BTW at £60 for the glue pack and gun (300cc's of glue)
John
05-19-2005, 11:40 AM
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What have you covered your Bandit wing with John?
Here are some pics of my friends Balsa Bandit wing with carbon on both the inside and outside for maximum strength! [8D]
Here are some pics of my friends Balsa Bandit wing with carbon on both the inside and outside for maximum strength! [8D]
05-19-2005, 11:41 AM
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I am profilming the flying surfaces as I hate glassing! I give then a couple of coats of clear dope first which helps to harden the wood and you get a smoother finish on the balsa before filming once you have sanded down.
I am hoping the Bandit will be OK at our field as we can take off from our 90m tarmac runway , but we usually land on the grass as there is more room.
John
I am profilming the flying surfaces as I hate glassing! I give then a couple of coats of clear dope first which helps to harden the wood and you get a smoother finish on the balsa before filming once you have sanded down.
I am hoping the Bandit will be OK at our field as we can take off from our 90m tarmac runway , but we usually land on the grass as there is more room.
John
05-19-2005, 11:44 AM
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I am sure that will be very strong but according to the manual film is OK on the flying surfaces. I don't have the facilities to do a really good paint job and will use spray can car paint on the fuz polished to the best of my ability.
John
I am sure that will be very strong but according to the manual film is OK on the flying surfaces. I don't have the facilities to do a really good paint job and will use spray can car paint on the fuz polished to the best of my ability.
John
05-19-2005, 01:18 PM
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I do not suppose your friend has reached the stage of testing the radio yet - but has he discovered whether covering the model in carbon creates problems on any other model?
I do not suppose your friend has reached the stage of testing the radio yet - but has he discovered whether covering the model in carbon creates problems on any other model?
05-19-2005, 01:30 PM
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Gerald, I have tried and tried to convince him ir is overkill.
But he is stubourn
I can follow him a bit........earlier, he has bought some high end pylon racers and hotliners, and he has managed to snap the wings in two on ALL of them in flight.
His wings turned out very light weight, so there is no harm done
There should not be any problems with the carbon wings. He uses a whip antenna which has proved to be very reliable. No one has problems with range in the little savexL-39 even though the fuselage is all carbon inside
But he is stubourn
I can follow him a bit........earlier, he has bought some high end pylon racers and hotliners, and he has managed to snap the wings in two on ALL of them in flight.
His wings turned out very light weight, so there is no harm done
There should not be any problems with the carbon wings. He uses a whip antenna which has proved to be very reliable. No one has problems with range in the little savexL-39 even though the fuselage is all carbon inside
05-19-2005, 01:43 PM
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At least the guys will put up with the noise of the Scottish Bandit! Scottish Bagpipe???????????????????????
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John, nice plane!
Scottish.... Scottish..... I was hoping for a checkered scheme on that Bandit! You know something like the (ex) Jackie Steward Racing F1..... hehe (he IS Scottish, right?)
just teasing....
I wouldn't worry about the economy thing.... myself, i am still several notches lower on the food chain (have DF Ultra Viper in the works...)
Cheers, Vasek
Scottish.... Scottish..... I was hoping for a checkered scheme on that Bandit! You know something like the (ex) Jackie Steward Racing F1..... hehe (he IS Scottish, right?)
just teasing....
I wouldn't worry about the economy thing.... myself, i am still several notches lower on the food chain (have DF Ultra Viper in the works...)
Cheers, Vasek
05-19-2005, 04:41 PM
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Hi John,
I must say that when I first read the title of this thread my first thought was why is there a thread about Gordon Brown on RCU?
Anyway its an interesting combination that you are putting together. How many hours do you estimate is in it so far? I also have a SS and this model did cross my mind. Let us know how it goes,
Regards,
John
I must say that when I first read the title of this thread my first thought was why is there a thread about Gordon Brown on RCU?
Anyway its an interesting combination that you are putting together. How many hours do you estimate is in it so far? I also have a SS and this model did cross my mind. Let us know how it goes,
Regards,
John
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Very good!
I have been building the Bandit over a period of six months and reckon I have put about 60 / 70 hours into it. It is a beautifully engineered kit, everything fits, the glasswork is superb, every last screw and horn is included so there are no trips to the model shop for bits and pieces and it builds into a superb looking model.
The parts count is enormous, some of the details like silver soldering linkages I have replaced with 3mm screwed rod. You do not have to use BVM extras like the landing gear, tanks and bypass which more than double the cost of the model.
If you enjoy building you will like the kit, if you don't I would buy something else!
John
Very good!
I have been building the Bandit over a period of six months and reckon I have put about 60 / 70 hours into it. It is a beautifully engineered kit, everything fits, the glasswork is superb, every last screw and horn is included so there are no trips to the model shop for bits and pieces and it builds into a superb looking model.
The parts count is enormous, some of the details like silver soldering linkages I have replaced with 3mm screwed rod. You do not have to use BVM extras like the landing gear, tanks and bypass which more than double the cost of the model.
If you enjoy building you will like the kit, if you don't I would buy something else!
John
05-21-2005, 08:55 AM
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John
Very good!
I have been building the Bandit over a period of six months and reckon I have put about 60 / 70 hours into it.
John
John
Very good!
I have been building the Bandit over a period of six months and reckon I have put about 60 / 70 hours into it.
John
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He is a quick builder Jason,
Your 3 - 400 hours makes me feel better, I usually use years as a guide!!!
All these SuperSports........ you lucky people you!!!!!
Nice one John!!
Gazzer
PS drilled 4 holes tonight and have the engine mounting ready for the Facet.... progress eh!!!!?
Your 3 - 400 hours makes me feel better, I usually use years as a guide!!!
All these SuperSports........ you lucky people you!!!!!
Nice one John!!
Gazzer
PS drilled 4 holes tonight and have the engine mounting ready for the Facet.... progress eh!!!!?
