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Old 08-08-2006, 04:51 PM
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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

Wow ! That's ambitious !

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Old 08-15-2006, 05:21 PM
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I have just bought an Avonds F-104, already built and flown by someone else. I notice on Philip's website that he says do not use oleo legs on the mains as it makes the ground handling bad. But the one I bought has robart oleos fitted and they have a the axle holder welded at an angle to compensate for the leg coming out of the fuz at an angle, so the wheel is upright. I see on Robart's website that they do make this specifically for the Avonds F-104. So, has anybody flown an Avonds F-104 with the special robart oleos, and what was the ground handling like? I want to avoid going back to bendy wire legs if possible.

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Old 08-24-2006, 04:10 AM
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Second and third flights went well. Kept the power on until touchdown and the third landing was a greaser.

However the landing runout showed I need brakes.

The basic paint job is done, just the detail work and decals to go.
Old 08-24-2006, 08:20 AM
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The Robarts work dead on perfect. I had them on mine for 5+ years. There is a thread somewhere lately about that very subject complete with a pix.
Old 08-30-2006, 05:55 AM
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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

Flew it at the UK Nats showline but only managed one flight due to organisational problems.

Jut got the shock cones and the tailpipe detail to install.

I am doing my own decals using waterslide transfer stock from LASERTRAN and an Inkjet printer. They were easy to apply and although white go transparent with a sovent based fuel proofer. I am not completely happy with the results and if I can find some better quality photos of the original aircraft may have another go.

Russel videoed the flight and got a couple of shots for me; it looks great and it has been worth the work involved. It flys really well looking great on the high speed passes. An ex RAF navigator who had actually flown in a 2 seat 104 came to talk to me about it and complemented me on the realism in the air although he said he would have preferred a military colour scheme.
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Old 08-30-2006, 08:49 AM
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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

Looks great ! I will eventually build one....

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Old 09-04-2006, 03:30 AM
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Better pics thanks to Russel.

If anyone knows of some high resolution pics of the tiger graphics on the original aircraft I would be very happy as I am working from a vey compressed JPEG.
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:55 AM
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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

Hey,

Congrats on the success! That is, indeed, a really cool airplane....
Old 11-02-2008, 12:15 PM
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Here is my new Avonds F-104 in red Ferrari paint scheme. I got it from ebay and it was built in Belgium a while ago. I plan to fly her with G-80 turbine next summer. Model has scale retracts and gear doors, I would have built this beauty for years...its well built and still unflown. Sorry about the iphone picture quality. Superb device, but the camera is not very good...Luckily, I got my small building shop ready just in time to protect her from the winter. Now the Starfighter shares a room with the Baby Boomerang.
http://gallery.me.com/stobe777#100014


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Old 11-03-2008, 09:42 AM
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Tuomas, I hope you also got the tip tanks for the ends of the wings. Don't even think about flying it without them, you will have no chance of telling which way up the F-104 is!
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:13 PM
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it,s one beauty,i dit the paintjob on this plane,please send some inflightpictures when you are going to fly;
greetings from belguim.
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I certainly WONT EVER even consider flying it without the tiptanks. In the picture I just hold the nose in place as my wife snapped the photo-tanks are still in wrapping. To wolfshound-good job! I could never have done such a nice finish. BTW, can You tell me the colour code and paint brand as I need to fix some small damage in the model? Is there also a clear coating over the paint? Also, the fuselage is missing its Italian markings, I can either make them myself of if You know where these ones in the wings are from, it would help. I am a little worried of the flaps, as they have some play in them that is difficult to remove. Just thinking of avoiding flutter. They are short, though. Anyway, its a really good looking model which I am already (6 months or so too early) exited to fly! I will post new pics as I get her more ready for action.

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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

I will emphasise - never fly it with out the tip tanks.

I thought I would try for a max speed flight which I did get completed but even with reduced aileron throws and mucho expo it was very very hairy esp on landing.
Old 11-04-2008, 01:10 AM
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ORIGINAL: Stobe777

Also, the fuselage is missing its Italian markings, I can either make them myself of if you know where these ones in the wings are from, it would help.

BR,

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You can order new Italian markings at HBO.com. A standard set includes:

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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

I think it looks much better with the tiptanks! But its handy that they´re removable for transport.
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:35 AM
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I think it looks much better with the tiptanks!
They are also useful for running along the runway on, if you raise the wheels 1/2 second too early on take-off.
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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

You are going to love this airplane, I flew one for 5 years before I sold it. Full flap landings are pretty short but 1/2 flap landings you can hold the nose off the runway for a long time....looks great.
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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

i will send you the paintcode,after looking up,en yes it's clearcoted.i stil have the paint in spare here.
dare are no italian marks on that plane because it's sponsord by ferari.it' identical to the real one.
gr werner.about the flaps i'm also concernd but PA fly's identical setup;
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:51 AM
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This is the original, right? It has the markings...



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Old 11-05-2008, 05:52 AM
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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

Hi Tom

I had to replace the nose bulkhead in mine and im checking the CG. Is 105 mm from the leading edge correct?

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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

How much elevator compensation should I have for full flaps?

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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

Sorry Duke, I dont remember. I'll look and see if I still have any of the instructions/plans that might help.
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In the manual it says 105 mm is nominal CG.

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Old 11-10-2008, 04:47 PM
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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

How much elevator compensation should I have for full flaps?
I had 12mm in mine at the trailing edge.
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Default RE: Avonds F104G Starfighter build thread.

Thanks for the info about the tip tanks. I have a JDE F104 That is ready for a maiden. I a Wren 54 in it for power. I have not installed the tip tanks but I will after your warnings. It sounds like they go a long way to reduce lost lift tip vortacies.


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