I'm looking for my next jet project and am considering the Jet Hanger Hobbies F9F Panther.
I'd like to hear anything good or bad about this plane.
I would build the turbine version.

Also would consider their F-86 Saber too.

Appreciate any opinions on either plane.

Thanks
Pete Stapleton

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pete S

Also would consider their F-86 Saber too.


I think there is somebody not too far from you who has built the F-86 and is considering a turbine conversion. This person might have a lot to say about the quality of the kit and the flying qualities of the plane, but I dont know how reliable he is. You might want to take his comments with a grain of salt, or two.
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Hi Pete,

I am a JHH F-86 driver, and I'm very pleased with the plane. The kit is excellent quality, it flies at a reasonably good speed, and Larry Wolfe is very helpful and supportive of any questions you might have when you are building the plane. It would be a tough choice between the Sabre and the Panther though. They are both very pretty birds!

B/R,
Earl

JHH's Cougar might be worthy of consideration also - I believe it has a bit more wing area than the Panther. Although somewhat tedious to build, all of Larry's kits are very good quality. Good luck trying to make a choice! [;}

Mike

I have been flying a JHH F86 for about 1 1/2 years now. It is a good flying plane and is forgiving for a first jet. From what I see the 86 is one of the easier planes to build that Larry sells.

Pete

I used to have an older FD 3/67 Turbine and one if the jets it first was used in was a Cougar in the demo tape that came with the turbine very impressive flight..Turbine only produced 8 lbs of thrust,,i can just imagine with todays small turbines what type flight it would have..

Pete,

What turbine are you considering for use with the Panther or Sabre?

The Panther or the Cougar are both excellent candidates for the smaller thrust turbine engines, such as the SimJet700. The Cougar, of course, has substantially more wing area. Contrary to what Mike said, both airplanes build quite similarly since the Cougar is no longer a semi-kit, but includes foam wings, stab, and laser cut wood. BTW, the demo flight referred to was flown by me for GWM.

We also offer the F-86 Sabre with what is known as an F-40 wing for turbine. This wing is overall 4" longer than the standard kit wing, incorporates a longer wing spar, and builds with carbon fiber matt under the balsa skins. Otherwise, the airplane builds per the plans.

Just by way of information, any swept wing jet will be more forgiving than a straight wing--just by virtue of the configuration (i.e., a straight wing will tip stall more easily than a swept wing if you let it get outside the flight envelope for that airplane).

Best regards,
Larry Wolfe
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Larry

Sorry that I didnt mention you by name in my reply I thought you were the one that flew the GWM plane in the video but didnt want to mention any name unless i was absolutely sure and i just couldnt recall..Great flight by the way..

Take Care,, and JHH makes some pretty darn good kits Pete

Chet

Thanks for all the replies to my question.

Larry, I would use a Simjet, was wondering if the 1200 is too big. Otherwise the 700 sounds very interesting.
I will look around at FJ.
Maybe we could talk there?
I'll be flying an orange and white Kangaroo with a Simjet 1700.
I'll be close to the Simjet tent.

Thanks for the help

Pete Stapleton
Simjet Rep

I remember seeing Larry Wolf fly the FD3-67 powered Cougar at the Az. jet rally and few years back and I was very impressed with that combo, it flew awesome and had a very unique sound. The newer small class turbos should make that jet really come alive. I am not sold on the 7lb thrust engines for this application until I see one fly but the Ram 500, SJ-1200, Mamba etc. would do the job nicely with power to spare.

Vin...

Hi PETE have you built the F9F YET I have 1 for sale for $299.99 plus shipping still in the box unassembled

I agree with Vin.....

If you've got several hundred feet of asphalt or cement, one of the little 7-8 lb turbines might work....but locally, Larry Turner had been flying his JHH Cougar with a RAM 500, a perfect combo, and the only way to fly off a grass field.......it takes quite a bit of a run to get that bird up to safe liftoff speed, as it will snap if you lift off at all prematurely......I doubt an MW-44 would get it off our 700 ft smooth grass field safely....

Tom

Pete,

The JHH Cougar flies great with a 12 lb thrust turbine. Its just my landings....

If I were doing it again I'd opt for a manual start MW54, much lighter in weight than my RAM500.

Maybe if the MW54 Supers come out this winter, I'll trade my RAM and try to find a good used MW54 (hint, hint for da Fatha).

Working on a built up wing for a JHH F86-MW44 conversion at the moment.

I've given serious thought to the Cougar.. it builds well, and flies great, and nobody else has one readily available here in the USA. The key is to always be weight concious.

There is one other Cougar available in the U.S. Check with Century Jet Models, they have a big Cougar for 17-20 # thrust turbines.

Tom

Unless the Century Jet kits have gotten substantially better in the recent future.. I'll pass.