Saw Gary Belfigio's Jaguar in RCJI. Do any of you Aussie guys out there know anything about this model or Gary's e-mail address. I've been trying to find a ducted fan jag forever. I've worked on the full size, but now I want to fly one of my own.

Dipsy,

Didier Pasquet from Christen Diffusion is working on a Jaguar kit.
You can contact him at http://christen.diffusion.online.fr/
I don't exactly know what has been done yet but it probably worth waiting a bit...!

Florent

G'day Dipsy,

If it's the same plane, Gary scratch built this plane by scaling up a plastic model of the Jaguar. The first flight was at the Leeton jet meeting in 1994 with Jon Hull as test pilot. Gary did a great job building it and from memory it was only a little nose heavy, but better to be that way on first flight.

I don't have a current email address for Gary.


Regards
Bruce

Is this the one? these pics are from Mangalore 02

Another Jag pic.

G'day Marty,

It appears to be the same model but, he may have built another one since most prototypes are used to sort the bugs out. If it is the original Gary has kept it in very good condition.

Marty, did you enjoy your time at Mangalore???.


Regards
Bruce

G'day Marty,

I just had a look at the inside photo, certainly appears to be new airframe.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce, I had a great time! It was a great to catch up with old friends and new. Now we just have to charter a plane to bring the Aussies over for Florida Jets in February. I know TJT Australia's Chris Mounkley will be coming over with I think Norm Thompson, also David Gladwin suggested he would be attending. It would be great to see more Aussies in Florida in February : )

Thanks for the photo's guy's, at least I know that someones made a jag fly. I've come over all inspired now !!
Marty do you fly anywhere near Toronto. I may be emigrating in the next year, wasn't sure how popular model jets were in Canada. Possibly going to work at Trenton on CH-149's if the the nice man at IMP likes me.
Dave

Dave- Trenton is about 15 min. drive from me, I live in Belleville and my club is the 'Bay of Quinte'. You may have heard of the Bay of Quinte jet rally, that our club hosts! its the oldest annual R/C jet rally in North America. We have great flying facilities, huge concrete runways nearby at Picton airport an ex WW2 air force base which is just awesome for jets. Hope to see you at the field soon....

Cheers-

Marty, whens your next jet meet? My wife and I are coming out to visit freinds in Toronto and Pickering sometime next year. I don't need much of an excuse to visit Canada. Unfortunately my ties to Ontario aren't all happy. We lost a Nimrod into the lake a few years ago during an airshow. Lost some great blokes that day.
Do you fly much during wintertime?
Dave

Dave- The 'Bay of Quinte' jet rally dates are yet to be confirmed for 03, but this years 02 jet rally was 14-16 of June and I would expect similar dates for 03. So if you plan on visiting, June would be best for Canadian jet activity. Here some pics. of 'Bay of Quinte' 02 although mostly rained out we still had fun- http://www.TJT.bz/newsdetail.php?news=18&page=0

Winter flying is not too common here as the winter weather is not always cooperative. I am actually getting myself a park flier soon so at least I can get a quick flight in occasionally weather permitting. That said we do get the odd winters day warm/clear enough for jet flying, unfortunately coordinating the good weather with weekends is rare...
I always keep my batteries charged though! on the odd chance, of a clear warmish Sunday : )

Loved the tiger markings on the f-16. I used to serve on a tiger sqn(230sqn RAF Aldergrove), it was a blast when we went to airshows. I think floats would have been more appropriate for your 'roo'!

Dave re- tiger, It looks great in the air highly visible! do you have any pics form the Tiger Meets? I would love to see some of the elaborate tiger paint schemes.

The ROO flies great in the rain - natural water injection rocks!

http://www.natotigers.org/ is the official web site for us tigers, but its only under construction at the moment.

http://www.onzeluchtmacht.nl/gallery/gal_tiger.htm has a load of tiger pics

http://cavok-aviation-photos.net/Tigermeet2001.html even more.

There are loads of sites in 'google. just type in tiger meet.

The tiger I put on the Puma for Fairford 97 (I think) was put on after we landed. It took twelve hours of solid work. Each stripe was individually put on. It was worth the effort, we came second to a KC-135 that had a massive tiger on it. Earned myself a lot of smarty points that weekend!!

Don't know about that Jag in RCJI but was built by Geoff Sparks who does not have an email address and he has built 3 or 4 of them thru the years. The latest one is turbine however Gary's was made by Geoff also. Will try get some contact details, ok.

Cheers Jason
If you could find out I'll have your babies!!!!
Dave

g'day guys, i've just had a look at the jag letters for the first time, first time to r/c u actually, and i must say i'm rather flattered about some of the jag comments. some truths about the history of the model(s).john hull did in fact test fly #1 at leeton at around the time brucem says(is that bruce mondenitz from toowoomba?) it was handled very well by john but a sticky main gear leg caused it to roll on landing no damage though.jason r is exactly right, gary belfiglio did own this aircraft but it WAS built by me,gary did not scale up a plastic model i did.i built #2 some time later, maybe 96, both these with os 91/ramtec,gary's take off weight about 18~19 lbs mine ~16lbs.they flew quite ok.i went to indonesia and worked for four years, while i was gone my jag was put on the hard rubbish clean up!!! thanks mum!!somebody picked it up but it hasn't been seen again since.on return i started #3 and it was belted hard on its test flight~not by me!!anyway a bit more glue and some sticks of balsa fixed it.thought it prudent to trust in thrust so a pst j600 was installed~great little engine, well worth looking into if you're in the market for that size motor~it flew well with the pst but too scale~underpowered!!a big ask of a 5.5 kilo motor too lift off at ~11 kilo~24lbs with a split duct, so a jetcat p 80 has been installed but as yet not flown, a few more tune ups and it will go at adelaide jet action march 14~16. i will post some photos when i get time have a few during construction too. a few quick stats length 2100mm~83'' span 1470mm~57'' and the span is stretched by about 200mm in the root, the real thing has a TINY wing to reduce gust response` they are supposed to fly fast and low~just the way we like it yeah!! i have moulds of the inlets, exhaust duct,conformal fuel tanks, can cut the wings and stabs,formers etc so a short kit would not be out of the question~most of these are for the df version some adaption would be needed for turbine but it is my intention to develope this model. anyway seeya later for now and if anyone is after more info don't hesitate to get in touch

G'day Blackcat (Jeff???),

Welcome to RCU, It is a great site.
Sorry about getting the story wrong, I just went and pulled out the video on the '94 Leeton and there it is, If you would like a copy of the first Jaguar Flight, I can do it up as a Mpeg File and send it to you on a CD. This might ease the pain of your Mum throwing out #2 & what she thought was rubbish.

Regards
Bruce Mondientz
Toowoomba

yeah its jeff, i think the last time i saw you was at amberly raaf base i never hear of any jet fly's there anymore, a video would be great bruce cheers i'll keep in touch

sparkes

Jeff,
I began designing a large (>100") turbine powered Jaguar about 5 years ago. The drawings were about 1/2 done when life got in the way and everything has been sitting in the closet ever since. I will be getting re-started on this project in the next month or two and it sounds like you might be able to answer some questions I still have about my design.

Q#1.
The full scale Jaguar has a significant amount of down thrust in exhaust nozzles (around 4-5 degrees). Did your model have down thrust in the exhaust? and if so, how much?


Q#2.
Roll control. Did you use spoilers and tailerons (like the full scale), or did you install ailerons.
I am hoping to use tailerons and spoilers for mine, but the complexity (and limited space in the tail cone) may preclude this.

I absolutely love the look of the Jag, and think it will make a great model. If you have any suggestions or warnings I would really like to learn from your experience.

Thanks,

Hey sparks welcome,
I'd definately be interested in any stuff you have on a Jag ( I'm happy to pay any postal charges of course). If you want any technical stuff let me know, the airframe sgt I work for is ex 6SQN (Flying Canopeners) and knows a s**tload about the big cat. And another guy I work with spent five years doing Jag major servicings at RAF St Athan. Judging by the pics though you did a fantastic job on your own. I have an OS 91+RAMTEC Fan waiting for it.

Dave

P.S Any word on whats happening with Warney

G'day Jeff,

Can you send me an email with your postal address so I send you the C.D.


Regards
Bruce

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g'day again guys i'll attatch a photo this time of the elevator pivot blocks as built . they have since had the following mods.
1) servos were changed to hitec 9545 digitals 13kg at 6v about 180 oz in
2)the brass bushings have been upgraded to twin ball bearings by pulling out the stab, lapping the aluminium(note the spelling usa dudes!!) rod is solid 10mm(3/8'') until i could push the bearings on from inside and then packing a thick slurry of milled carbon around the outside of the bearing as a carrier~the rod and bearings were installed tonight and the slurry tomorrow, all this because of a little slop from the original setup that i couldn't stop thinking about!
so i guess this may answer 1 of kevin w's questions~ this jag #3 has all flying stabs as elevators only(massed balanced), conventional ailerons, flaps, rudder no spoilers. so as you can see the setup could be for roll control in the tail but i have no experience with any model setup like this.the other two had fixed stab and elevator
rudder is a similar setup but with closed loop, 2-56 rod (about1.5 in long) and 4 swivel linksrudder servo sits behind ele rods.i'll post some more pics of the control setups when time permits~is r/c u strict on 75kb for pics? i'll have to reduce some to get on if so

one more of the rudder