seanreit

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I need 12 by 24 of this material comp arf uses on control horns.

Thanks,

Sean

Skymac

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Not sure, but isn't that electronic component board? I know theres gotta be a better name than that for it?

Gordon Mc

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Based on the "What is this and where can I get it " title, I expected to see a pic of some cute young lady

Isn't the material just called "paxolin" ?

ianober

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I have also heard it referred to as "garolite" or G10. There are a wide range of them available all with different specs and tensile strengths. Mcmaster has all that stuff on their site.

DocYates

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Frank Tiano has several different thicknesses of G10 in 12x12 size. I have the similar stuff like you have there, but it appears to be electronic board. I bought a batch off of Ebay a couple of years ago. You are welcome to a few sheets of it to see if it will work for you. PM your address and I will send it to you.
Tommy

siclick33

Comp ARF calls it Phenolic. I'm not sure what the difference is between that and Paxolin but I think it is the name of the resin.

None of that helps you to find out where to get it though!

Gordon Mc

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I believe Paxolin was/is a phenolic that has a paper base for the resin ; a later product using fabric instead of paper was called Tufnol.

Of course, these could just be the UK trade names, and generic names for them exist instead, but that's all I remember of the material.

seanreit

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Thanks for the help thus far, I need a US source for this stuff that I can order today (preferably in CA ie west coast) so I can have it overnighted to Texas. On my digital calipers, this stuff is .080 thick, so it's not 1/8. On the MM it's 2.0 MM.

Bill Hatcher

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Sean look here. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...s/phenolic.php

siclick33

If you search for 'phenolic' on McMaster Carr a load of things appear.

There are a couple of phenolic based laminates and epoxy ones too. Only in imperial sizes though.

craigdyer

Hey Sean
Why not just use carbon fibre sheet, I have used it and it works great.Here in OZ we use paxolin as a electrical switchboard insulation material... might pay you to chase up some switchboard manufacturers in your area.
Kind Regards
Craig Dyer

seanreit

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Which mcmaster product ID are you suggesting?

dragonpilot

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Sean,

Call these guys, they should be able to find that thickness.
[link]http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/search.asp?search=phenolic&x=0&y=0[/link]
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/sea...enolic&x=0&y=0

Spartan Missile

tuffnol smells of p1ss when you machine it
or is it me ?

Dave Burns

Hi Sean,
The sample you are holding is a product called 'micarta'. It comes in sheet form, different thicknesses and is made from canvas material layers bonded with epoxy carrirer.
it is used in aviation for spacers, insulators and sealant scrapers.

Any major airport maintenance workshop should have plenty of this material available.

one caution with this material, work it slowly ie drilling, sawing, power sanding etc as excessive localised heat build up can destroy the laminates.

Regards
Dave Burns

djindivik

Take no notice of 'bladder man' he always smells of piss. I think you would be better off with 2mm Fiberglass sheet. Ray

Hustler58

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http://k-mac-plastics.com/g10-fr4-sheets.htm They have G10, Graphite, what ever you need.

siclick33

Have a look at the following

8491K13 - Grade CE Garolite - Phenolic with cotton cloth laminate

or

8474K122 - Grade LE Garolite - Phenolic with fine weave cotton cloth laminate

It is quite tricky to find the 'overview' page but by playing around you can get a summary of all the similar laminates and their properties. Please don't take my word as gospel as I can't guarantee that what I have suggested is the same as what you have.

I'm not sure what you need it for but the Comp-ARF horns have been known to break if twisted. I don't think it is the strongest material in the world.

P. Richards

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Sean I have seen this before in a local Radio shack they should have it in stock...

P. Richards aka Swat Team

seanreit

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If you use two on each surface there isn't a bending moment is there? And if there is, what material would you suggest instead? What part number and where can I get it. I need to make up about 50 of these on my machine.

siclick33

Correct, and if this is the case then phenolic would be fine.

If I bought a C-ARF model I would use the phenolic parts supplied as they are up to the job is used correctly. However, if I had to source/make my own control horns (if that is what you are doing) then I would probably use carbon fibre. I don't have a particularly huge amount of experience but there must be a reason why the likes of Tam, BVM, Skymaster etc all use carbon.

seanreit

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Ok, source me out the carbon fiber, I'll make both and report back here which I think is better. My machine will cut accurate to the knats ass. So really any material is worth giving a try. I'm scratch building a sport jet as big as the lightning. I'm in stuffing stages now and need the control horn part resolved.

RAMFlyer

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www.mcmaster.com Page 3480

Undecided

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Hello Sean

Not building a megabar are we!

I fly with Brian coston from malvern, Ar.

Got a question for you, I am in need of some control horns cut out. Intrerested in doing a side job? I can email you a dxf.

Let me know

Thanks, Neal

seanreit

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Send it to [email protected] I'll give it a shot.

Megabar, what's that? I don't see any Megabar.