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Old 06-28-2007 | 12:38 PM
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What are the Pros and cons of balancing the flying Stab on an F-16.
Do I need to leave them extreamly aft heavy, That is the way they are.
I am a bit familar with balancing of flying stabs on real aircraft, But what about these
Extreme Speed High Proformance Jet Models?
I will be using JR's New DS 8711's on the stabs. Should be enough power.
Anyone ever expierenced flying Stab flutter?

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Old 06-28-2007 | 01:15 PM
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I fly the Skymaster F-16 1/6 and did not balance the stabs - they are tail heavy, but will be swept back by the airflow
once the plane is moving. I have had 3 F-16 and only balanced the first set of stabs, but did not fell or see any difference.
When you see the full size powered down on the ground the stabs are hanging straight down aft.

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Old 06-28-2007 | 02:36 PM
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The pro's are that it reduces the possibility of flutter and also reduces the potential severity and damage should flutter occur. That, in and of itself, has led me to balance the canards on my Euro and the flying stab an the AD F-16 I built for a friend.

The cons are that it is often not really necessary (although the only way to tell for sure is to fly the plane without it, and if there's a problem, its usually fatal before you can do anything about it), it is often difficult to fit enough weight into the surface to balance it, it makes the airplane heavier, and when done to the stabs, makes the plane more tail heavy - which can require additional nose weight to counter-balance...

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Old 06-28-2007 | 03:17 PM
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I've flown many, many jets(over 200 flights) that have this "draging" stab problem and I have never seen flutter. It seems like you have the JL F-16? I flew Tam's f-16, and there are many current flyers now as well, with out balancing the stab.

I just don't think its worth the weight. But it would make the stabs stay level on the ground when you take a picture with it!

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Old 06-28-2007 | 04:27 PM
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Well one thing for sure, It would take a LOT of weight. and Id think you would be better off with slightly aft (tail Heavy stabs), Than
weighed heavy in the front. I know that is the pivot is to close to the CG the stab could want to turn round and fly backwords, inducing flutter.
Sorry about the bad Pix, Used Cell Camera. My Kodak is at the lake. This was more of a problem 20 years ago when 35 In Oz's was the best servo you could get.
Old 06-28-2007 | 08:19 PM
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Years ago Bob Parks (extremely knowledgable jet guy and real NASA rocket scientist) did a study for us on RC Jets List and showed that flying stabs that are balanced have a very, very high chance of flutter and to prevent flutter flying stabs should be "tail heavy".


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