240 mph phantom
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I see skymaster website 240 mph phantom. Fast very but is this at ama field in usa. I fly private ariport, i go 240 maybe, but is phantom at private airpot to. j petrov
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I live in Texas, what airport do you fly at? I'd like to come see your phantom, I don't believe for a second it will do 240 MPH.
Welcome to RCU and I will apoligize after you show me how fast it is!
I live in Texas, what airport do you fly at? I'd like to come see your phantom, I don't believe for a second it will do 240 MPH.
Welcome to RCU and I will apoligize after you show me how fast it is!
http://colorado-rc.com/video/f4.mpg
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Years ago when John Redman was testing out the new JetCat P-200 in his Kingcat, he had the GPS unit in it, and we saw a high recorded speed of 246 mph. Big airplanes are VERY deceptive in their speed.
In regards to that video.. If that were me, I'm not sure I'd want the fact that I can't fly documented and posted up on the internet for all to see.
In regards to that video.. If that were me, I'm not sure I'd want the fact that I can't fly documented and posted up on the internet for all to see.
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GPS logging is not as accurate as some may think. At the rates of speeds we're flying at in addition to the erratic movements and orientation changes, often the GPS unit will not update quick enough or it may lose satellites and increase the error in position. That can turn into some strange readings which become artificially high or low. Looking at an Eagle Tree unit proves it pretty quickly when you correlate GPS velocity and airspeed from the pitot tube on a day with low wind. In a 3D plot of coordinates its also easy to see when the GPS loses it, as it starts to straight line throughout the flight path a lot, artificially cutting or elongating corners.
I'm pretty convinced that airspeed measurement by pitot tube is the best way to measure velocity, but its not perfect either as it does become influenced by air density. GPS is only really useful in my opinion if you can log air speed in parallel to verify the data.
That being said, I'd love to have seen a P-200 in a KingCat!!!
Kelly
I'm pretty convinced that airspeed measurement by pitot tube is the best way to measure velocity, but its not perfect either as it does become influenced by air density. GPS is only really useful in my opinion if you can log air speed in parallel to verify the data.
That being said, I'd love to have seen a P-200 in a KingCat!!!

Kelly
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From: Newport PagnellBUCKS, UNITED KINGDOM
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It dowloaded OK for me. I use Firefox and Rclicked for "copy location" and then used Reget (magicdownloadaccelorator should be OK as well) and pasted the location to activate the download.
I liked the music at the beginning and thought the quality was pretty good. I thought chasing the photographer and the 1st landing was a bit "iffy"
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It dowloaded OK for me. I use Firefox and Rclicked for "copy location" and then used Reget (magicdownloadaccelorator should be OK as well) and pasted the location to activate the download.
I liked the music at the beginning and thought the quality was pretty good. I thought chasing the photographer and the 1st landing was a bit "iffy"
Henry.
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Having flown a phantom for about 8 years now I doubt very seriously that you could get 240 out of it. Even with a really big engine you have a very draggy airframe.
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Kevin intoned ...
Someone needs to teach this guy how to slow a jet down and use the throttle to control rate of descent....
Someone needs to teach this guy how to slow a jet down and use the throttle to control rate of descent....
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ORIGINAL: MrMike
The flying site (Chatfield State Park near Denver) is a mile high - the laws of physics come to play big time: The air is thin and lots of speed is needed to generate lift. It gets even more of a challenge on a hot summer day - the video was shot in March. The F-4 is a draggy jet under the best of conditions.
The flying site (Chatfield State Park near Denver) is a mile high - the laws of physics come to play big time: The air is thin and lots of speed is needed to generate lift. It gets even more of a challenge on a hot summer day - the video was shot in March. The F-4 is a draggy jet under the best of conditions.
On a jet the approach is supposed to be with the nose very slightly upwards...if its pointing very severely downward you are too fast. (Or you have passed the point of becoming too slow. In that case start start looking for the extinguisher...)
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From: SANTA ANA, CA
Am I the only one who thinks that admitting, in writing, to flying your jet in excess of the 200mph AMA restriction is uhh, what's the word, STOOPID? Awfully silly way to get your waiver yanked!
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From: Fond du Lac,
WI
Fastest Phantom I have seen has been Tim Redelman's with the Titan.....almost kept up with my Hotspot with P-120 at Sullivan couple of years ago.....on the speed gun and JetCat pitot, my HS was good for about 200-205 on the level .....
Judging by the appearance in the video, methinks Colorado just got his mph and kph mixed up......
Judging by the appearance in the video, methinks Colorado just got his mph and kph mixed up......


