Powermax alternative
11-28-2007, 08:56 PM
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Powermax alternative
I know some have had trouble getting Powermax, and of course there are rumors about its continued availability.
Powermax is really nothing more than a propane and butane mix, in a can with a clunk, so when you hold it upright, you get liquid out of it instead of gas.
In any case, I know of at least 4 brands of this gas mixture on the market. (Camping Gaz, MSR, Gigapower and Primus).
I have been using Primus with this 15 buck valve from Peter at Altecare. Works fine, just hold the can upside down. The gas is much easier to find than power max and the valve is about a 3rd the cost of the powermax trigger valves.
Anyway, just an FYI
Regards,
Powermax is really nothing more than a propane and butane mix, in a can with a clunk, so when you hold it upright, you get liquid out of it instead of gas.
In any case, I know of at least 4 brands of this gas mixture on the market. (Camping Gaz, MSR, Gigapower and Primus).
I have been using Primus with this 15 buck valve from Peter at Altecare. Works fine, just hold the can upside down. The gas is much easier to find than power max and the valve is about a 3rd the cost of the powermax trigger valves.
Anyway, just an FYI
Regards,
11-28-2007, 10:17 PM
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RE: Powermax alternative
Good find, Matt. Others have already done this but I've been thinking about ditching the onboard Powermax start gas tank altogether and just going back to garden variety propane with the ramp hook up to the onboard start gas solenoid. Remember the good old days? I got one of the tricky little valves shown below from an unnamed source in Canada whose initials are Great Northern Models.
11-28-2007, 11:33 PM
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I've gone to the green can too..fires first time, every single time...have to chuckle when I see other guys shaking the beeejezuz out of their powermax cans trying to get the turbine to light..........
11-29-2007, 08:00 AM
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ORIGINAL: SinCityJets
Wayne,
how does the straight propane do in the cold months??
Wayne,
how does the straight propane do in the cold months??
) he suggested that Propane would be better than Powermax when its cold because it has higher partial pressure so it will turn to gas better in the cold (you may not even need the regulator when its cold).Bob
11-29-2007, 09:48 AM
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ORIGINAL: mr_matt
I know some have had trouble getting Powermax, and of course there are rumors about its continued availability.
Powermax is really nothing more than a propane and butane mix, in a can with a clunk, so when you hold it upright, you get liquid out of it instead of gas.
In any case, I know of at least 4 brands of this gas mixture on the market. (Camping Gaz, MSR, Gigapower and Primus).
I have been using Primus with this 15 buck valve from Peter at Altecare. Works fine, just hold the can upside down. The gas is much easier to find than power max and the valve is about a 3rd the cost of the powermax trigger valves.
Anyway, just an FYI
Regards,
I know some have had trouble getting Powermax, and of course there are rumors about its continued availability.
Powermax is really nothing more than a propane and butane mix, in a can with a clunk, so when you hold it upright, you get liquid out of it instead of gas.
In any case, I know of at least 4 brands of this gas mixture on the market. (Camping Gaz, MSR, Gigapower and Primus).
I have been using Primus with this 15 buck valve from Peter at Altecare. Works fine, just hold the can upside down. The gas is much easier to find than power max and the valve is about a 3rd the cost of the powermax trigger valves.
Anyway, just an FYI
Regards,
1 :they are thin ., and break easely
2 you have to make a Close rotation to open the valve.. very confusing and i have seen someone,s eyebrows burned of because of this...
11-29-2007, 11:05 AM
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Bob wrote ...
I talked to Bob Wilcox about that a few years ago when we were having trouble starting some JetCats when the temperature was 40 degrees. After he told me that "we can't test how they start when its that cold"
I talked to Bob Wilcox about that a few years ago when we were having trouble starting some JetCats when the temperature was 40 degrees. After he told me that "we can't test how they start when its that cold"
It's a balmy 26F here right now.
11-29-2007, 01:13 PM
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RE: Powermax alternative
ORIGINAL: joeflyer
B.S.! Jetcat has enough reps. spread around the country that they could easily test it if they wanted to.
"we can't test how they start when its that cold"
Bob
11-29-2007, 02:59 PM
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Pulled out all my onboard tanks years ago. Use the GNM regulator, green bottle plugged into a one way festo from the solinoid. Starts first time every time, no POP as there is no liquid gas getting into the combustion chamber. Scott
11-29-2007, 08:18 PM
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Just an FYI:
I just spoke with Coleman today ref Powermax. I was told they have absolutely no intention of stopping production of powermax. He also about crapped when I told him what we used it for. I told him if he re-labeled it "Jet Starting Gas" he could probably get another $2 per can
I hope he doesn't take that advice [sm=72_72.gif]
I just spoke with Coleman today ref Powermax. I was told they have absolutely no intention of stopping production of powermax. He also about crapped when I told him what we used it for. I told him if he re-labeled it "Jet Starting Gas" he could probably get another $2 per can
I hope he doesn't take that advice [sm=72_72.gif]
