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Old 12-22-2007 | 02:29 PM
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OK jet guys im a warbird driver so bear with my 47 prop years! I am building a 1/7 scale B-17 from wingspan and wish to use ed claytons flite metal. I know a lot of your jets are done like this. Question is does the sun glint off the plane making it hard to see? I ordered rosie the riviter and the man sent me a 500 pic cd of the b-25 which is what im doing along side . D!etails of things no one would think of !Its unbelievable Ed would do this he is a true gentleman .



question two am i too old to fly a turbine jet like a f-100 I cant fly them at 150 would they fly lets say 70-90mph safely. I always loved the look of the 100. Any good kits out there.
Old 12-22-2007 | 03:03 PM
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The simple answer is yes, they are harder to see. But some guys don't seem to have trouble with it. If it has some color it helps alot. As far as the F 100, it would depend on the size, power, etc. The bigger ones like the BVM seem to like some speed. Keeping it under 100mph except for landing or slow dirty pass would not be fun. There are several nice 100 kits out there. Do a few searches and see what comes up.
Old 12-22-2007 | 03:42 PM
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If you are over 90 and blind in one eye, yes you are too old.
I have been flying jets for 11years and I am 68.
Old 12-23-2007 | 12:01 AM
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140 hits and 2 comments wow
Old 12-23-2007 | 12:10 AM
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That will be an impressive looking project - the B-17 that has been Flite-metalled! [8D] Regarding the 70-90 mph turbine model, I doubt if you'll find any scale models that could fly that slowly and comfortably so, but there are several sport models (like Boomerangs) that would be comfortable to fly, I'm sure, at that speed. Some would be even proud of you if you could figure out how to Flite-metal one - that red/wht/blu color scheme is getting a bit old!
Old 12-23-2007 | 12:14 AM
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If your looking to fly 70-90, I would not recomend flying a jet, at least a turbine powered jet I would not fly, electric ducted fan yes. The F-100 no matter what company would not be a good jet choice for you. Good Luck anyhow.

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Old 12-23-2007 | 12:36 AM
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thanks how fast do the turbine powered scale jets go . ive flown lots of edf and heard of speeds over 200. is this true and if so how could anyone keep an eye on a model flying so rapidly
Old 12-23-2007 | 12:47 AM
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We don't fly past 200 mph around here, because AMA doesn't allow it. To keep an eye on the model, one must turn head while flying. You can also move the little stick on the left hand side of the transmitter down some.

If you want a relatively slow flying jet, look for something with a low wing loading (big wing, low weight). A BTE Reaction 54 might also be a good candidate.
Old 12-23-2007 | 12:54 AM
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so how fast would normal flight in a bvm 100 be and landing speed. ive flown nothing but 1/5 scale ww2 fighters . my corsair can do 110 on a g-64 so maybe i am undersetimating my abilitles. the 100 has le and te slats and flaps plus a speed break.
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I do not have a BVM F-100, but I'd guess a comfortable flying speed for the model might be 100-130 mph - certainly capable of more. If you've flown models at 110, it probably wouldn't take long for you to get comfortable with flying a slight amount faster - you get used to it after a while, and eventually you end up wanting more speed.

You might want to attend a jet fly and see what people are flying, and check out what models might be difficult to see. maybe someone could buddybox with you. Probably not many jet flys in Michigan this time of year though...
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no one up here except for dick watz does serious scale. lots of 3-d ! So its something im looking into bvm is composite so it would be a good build. how slow is the landing speed? im used to 40 on the high side
Old 12-23-2007 | 02:04 AM
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The BVM F100 is an awesome scale project. I have flown mine since Aug 2000. It lands very well and can land slow or fast without any problems. It handles high alpha very well and is very honest. I enjoy flying it as much as the Bandit if not more. There is a lot of engineering that went into this kit and it shows. I have 110 flights on mine and it keeps going like the Enegizer Bunny.

As far as the flight metal goes its no more or less difficult to see than anything else. I highly recommend it if you serious scale. We won with it as Scale Masters and Top Gun.
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thanks i saw it on the web site and since i have degrees in math physics i can handle this
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Timothy
I have been flying R/C since 1952 and now have a Baby Boomerang with a WREN Super Sport engine. We estimate it flies about 135mph full throttle. I usually fly around at ½ throttle or a little more and estimate speed at 90-100. I use full throttle when I want to go vertical. The Boomerang is very easy to fly and if you have flown warbirds or big pattern planes you won’t have any problems. I highly recommend the Baby Boomerang for your first jet.

I am currently building a scale F-94C and hope the Boomerang experience will be enough to be successful flying the F-94C. I am shooting for a wing loading of 65oz/ft, I think most BVM F-100’s are much higher wing loading.

If you go for the F-100, do it as a second jet model and get some help on buddy box.

F-94C project can be seen on my web: http://www.gates-sid.com
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Like Bags said...its not an issue...nor has it been over the last ten years
under every type of overcast imaginable...crystal clear blue, puffy white,
and neutral gray and dark overcast. For the most part you will not have a
mirror except on the few polished CAG's that exist. Terry Nitsch's F-100 is
an excellent example of the "lack of visual conflict" with a mirror finish.

This is the typical scale F-100 finish:


This is the exception rather than the rule:
Old 12-25-2007 | 09:12 PM
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ed is that yours! its beautiful
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Top: Scott Marr's BVM F-100 with a factory fresh natural finish.

Bottom: Terry Nitsch's BVM F-100 with a mirror finish.

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