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Old 01-18-2008 | 06:56 AM
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This is a video of a Wild Hornet flying on the new Aeronaout Turbo Fan 8000.
145 mm fan designed by Joerg Rehm of Germany.
It even sounds like a turbine

Specs:
Lehner 3060-10 with 12s2p Flightpower 4500 30c 230 A
Schulze 40/160 gives about 12-14 kg. trust


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzpxlzVsOK8
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i strongly sugest to have a forum for electick jets....i also dont read about E.Jets in the jet magazins and i think

they should belong in a seperate magazin.

as i say in Greek "props are for moving boats" and "batteries for moving waches(hand cloks)"

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Why does the E power source of this large jet have anything to do with this post.
If this was a foamy I would agree 100%.
This is an RC jet and this is the RC Jet section.
RC JetInt does have a High power edf column.
Old 01-18-2008 | 07:57 AM
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That is awesome!


More video:
http://www.hmsv.net/online/img/jets_HMSV.wmv


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Outstanding performance!Thanks for sharing.
Old 01-18-2008 | 08:53 AM
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Why does the E power source of this large jet have anything to do with this post.
If this was a foamy I would agree 100%.
This is an RC jet and this is the RC Jet section.
RC JetInt does have a High power edf column.
i must also say...nice performans

... "foamy" ?? below you see a jet!

material of the fuselaze cant be a must for the "jet" name rights since most jets are fiberglass or wood and not metal like full scale

....but dam mine do burn jetA1 too!!
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Old 01-18-2008 | 09:11 AM
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Bob,
Do you have a link to the company's web page? That is truely awesome e-power.

Perhaps you should have posted this in the Battlestar Gallactica forum Oh wait Battlestar is in the Jets forum I guess dreaming about Battlestar makes more sense than previewing leading edge Jet technology.
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Fan : http://www.aero-naut.net/571.html?&n...L=1&sword_list[]=turbofan#2470

Plane: http://www.jetarrows.com/whornet/page.phtml?lg=en

Motor: http://www.lehner-motoren.com/ms30.php?la=en

ESC: http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/futu-e.htm

Bats: http://www.bestrc.com/flightpower/fpwp0430.html
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In answer to your post,this is a RC jet forum for discussion of jets including turbine and ducted fan jets.Yes,there is a sub forum for electric jets.I guess you could post in either one depending on how interesting it is
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Gary,
You should find it here:

http://www.aero-naut.net/index.php?id=571&L=1

Ductedfanns in your area will have the Turbo fan 8000 soon.

I was impressed and you know I fly a hot f-16!
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Bob,
Do you have a link to the company's web page? That is truely awesome e-power.

Perhaps you should have posted this in the Battlestar Gallactica forum Oh wait Battlestar is in the Jets forum I guess dreaming about Battlestar makes more sense than previewing leading edge Jet technology.
Old 01-18-2008 | 10:20 AM
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Thanks for posting
Semper fi
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Heard the electrics are constantly exceeding the 200 mph barrier ......BVM Electra 213 mph...
Old 01-18-2008 | 10:33 AM
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Joe,
Are you coming back from the darkside
Seriously though the vertical power and speed of this big model is mind blowing............
Old 01-18-2008 | 11:31 AM
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Bob
Yes returning to the Lightside
Building a BVM F4 using the BVM EDF units, hope to have it finished by Fentress Va Jets (end of May)
Semper fi
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That will be one sweet Rhino. Have you chosen your Corps color scheme yet?
Those Twin EVF's will be singing a sweet song together.
Bob
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It does have alot of the turbine sound, I may be wrong but could it have something to do with the design of the shroud ,air being forced through it making the turbine sound?
as to the other models in the vid's dont have the turbine sound.
Old 01-18-2008 | 12:31 PM
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Heres the F-18

[link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR4Ppkx1-VI&feature=related[/link]
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Yes that model has 120 mm fan. This electric stuff keeps getting better all the time.
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ORIGINAL: uncljoe

Heard the electrics are constantly exceeding the 200 mph barrier ......BVM Electra 213 mph...
Since my own Electra is almost done, I'm all ears....Joe, do you have any details on power system and batteries used ?

cheers-

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High performance E-Power jets is coming more popular . With the high performance fan and high discharge Li-po.
Most turbine aircraft now can be convert to E-power system.
We had done to our 1:8 scale F-16 and A-4.
This plane weight in 17 lbs and cable to fly at 160 mph on E-power system. Which is only 5-10 mph slower than turbine if compare with 13-14 lbs class turbine.
The 200 mph E-power is already been done with sleek air frame.
As for maunfactory background myself. I would said turbine aircraft is easy to design.
E-power system aircraft took a lot more engineering and design to made it fly fast and effeciency.
When ever see a high performance E-power jets doing the speed and good performance. I give them a [sm=thumbs_up.gif].
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ORIGINAL: uncljoe

Heard the electrics are constantly exceeding the 200 mph barrier ......BVM Electra 213 mph...
Since my own Electra is almost done, I'm all ears....Joe, do you have any details on power system and batteries used ?

cheers-

Barry
Barry the info's on BVM home page. Packed the Cubans for speedworld.
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Semper Fi
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Heres the F-18

[link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR4Ppkx1-VI&feature=related[/link]

The F-18 flew really nice.
Hope by spring I got the Y/A F-18 and F-4 conversion done for E-power system.
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ORIGINAL: DelGatoGrande

i strongly sugest to have a forum for electick jets....i also dont read about E.Jets in the jet magazins and i think

they should belong in a seperate magazin.

as i say in Greek "props are for moving boats" and "batteries for moving waches(hand cloks)"


EDF's have every reason to be here, besides, how will turbine only modelers ever learn about the best way to make a jet if EDF's are in a separate forum? By the way, watch the "hand cloks" statements, we'll all have to wonder what you are up to when you aren't reading about EDF's [:@] You'll have to show me your turbine powered radio and ECU power setup being that you don't own any batteries, I'm sure it's awesome

Thanks for posting Bob, makes me proud to have been involved in EDF over the years [>:]
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Great to read - and IMHO, large EDF's DO belong here in the jet forums (But please leave the toys - GWS, Kyosho, E-flite airliners, etc - in the electric forums. )

Just a general comment on the E-jets from a "typical" jet jockey/consumer... I am very happy to see the growth in performance and availability of quality, large-sized EDF's. While I do fly some E-power (up to and including a 33% YAK in Electric IMAC competition), I still prefer turbines for the sound, smell, and uniqueness factor.

But if my experience is typical - turbines are limited to flying in the late fall, winter, and early spring at my home field, and banned at pretty much every other easily accessible field in my area - EDF's are here to stay. So I'll have at least one or two decent sized EDF's to fly the rest of the year. Now if battery technology can just accelerate a bit more to allow us to 'hot pump' so that we can get more than four, 6 minute flights in a whole flying day (with two sets of $750 batteries)...

Last, with each 8-10 minute turbine flight now costing about $10 in fuel (kero is $7/gallon, oil at $15/quart, I get 5 flights out of my 5 gallon Jersey Modeler)..plus another $3.00 or so in maintenance reserve ($350 average service cost every 125 flights, if you follow JetCat's recommended interval, with 12 minutes on the clock per flight)...totalling $13 per turbine flight...and in my own experience, large LiPo's managed well but flown aggressively will fade (deteriorate) and need replacement after 100 or so flights.... the cost per large EDF flight is actually cheaper than turbines (ignoring fixed and start-up costs) . Might be interesting to do a full cost of ownership/lifetime analysis.

Barry

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Great to read - and IMHO, large EDF's DO belong here in the jet forums (But please leave the toys - GWS, Kyosho, E-flite airliners, etc - in the electric forums. )

Just a general comment on the E-jets from a "typical" jet jockey/consumer... I am very happy to see the growth in performance and availability of quality, large-sized EDF's. While I do fly some E-power (up to and including a 33% YAK in Electric IMAC competition), I still prefer turbines for the sound, smell, and uniqueness factor.

But if my experience is typical - turbines are limited to flying in the late fall, winter, and early spring at my home field, and banned at pretty much every other easily accessible field in my area - EDF's are here to stay. So I'll have at least one or two decent sized EDF's to fly the rest of the year. Now if battery technology can just accelerate a bit more to allow us to 'hot pump' so that we can get more than four, 6 minute flights in a whole flying day (with two sets of $750 batteries)...

Last, with each 8-10 minute turbine flight now costing about $10 in fuel (kero is $7/gallon, oil at $15/quart, I get 5 flights out of my 5 gallon Jersey Modeler)..plus another $3.00 or so in maintenance reserve ($350 average service cost every 125 flights, if you follow JetCat's recommended interval, with 12 minutes on the clock per flight)...totalling $13 per turbine flight...and in my own experience, large LiPo's managed well but flown aggressively will fade (deteriorate) and need replacement after 100 or so flights.... the cost per large EDF flight is actually cheaper than turbines (ignoring fixed and start-up costs) . Might be interesting to do a full cost of ownership/lifetime analysis.

Barry


Barry,
EDF is even more friendly user. No need for turbine waiver and like you said. Some club are not turbine friendly and fire risk season. EDF is a choice to have.
I been flying high performance EDF for year now. I love it and tell you the truth. To the point I'm too lazy to carry all the turbine equipment to the field. I just bring my plane to the field with 4-5 set of batteries and Tx. Plug-n-play babe.
I still love fly turbine aircraft. But I let Russ take care of it and bring the equipment to the field. I steal one or two flight from him.....
Sorry Russ. You been use.......
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Very impresive, and Zee Zee Top as pretty good too


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