BVM Electra ARF
03-11-2008, 02:02 PM
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BVM Electra ARF
Did anyone see the new Electra at FJ?
Is it going to be a baby turbine model as well-I have a little turbine looking for a home.
What weight do Electra's come out at, I've not seen one in England although I think I read Dave Wiltshire has one.
Matt
Is it going to be a baby turbine model as well-I have a little turbine looking for a home.
What weight do Electra's come out at, I've not seen one in England although I think I read Dave Wiltshire has one.
Matt
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03-11-2008, 02:18 PM
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Matt
I do have one, it’s ready to paint now but it’s for the EVF.
I know two other people wondering about turbining one,it’s where the Savex came from! And my Spark Turbine!
I guess a P60 would be nice
Dave Wilshere
I do have one, it’s ready to paint now but it’s for the EVF.
I know two other people wondering about turbining one,it’s where the Savex came from! And my Spark Turbine!
I guess a P60 would be nice
Dave Wilshere
03-11-2008, 02:37 PM
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Since got the VioFan from the auction. I call Bob this morning get myself Electra ARF's. I got one coming very soon. Hope can finish for CA Jets.
I plan to have my with multi power plant and made custom brakes for the wheels. Where I'm flying is very short runway and can't afford for go out the end runway.
The best about this Electra ARF's is the size. I can have it one pieces in back of my truck. Now we had more day light and I can go for few flights after work.
We also start sell BV Electra ARF's. We will update more information in few days and taking order.
I plan to have my with multi power plant and made custom brakes for the wheels. Where I'm flying is very short runway and can't afford for go out the end runway.
The best about this Electra ARF's is the size. I can have it one pieces in back of my truck. Now we had more day light and I can go for few flights after work.
We also start sell BV Electra ARF's. We will update more information in few days and taking order.
03-11-2008, 03:38 PM
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RE: BVM Electra ARF
A standard Electra with a 10S pack is 13 - 14 pounds depending on Rx pack size, paint weight etc. 13 is a pretty good trick, most will be 13.5 + or - an ounce or two I think. The ARF may be lighter or heavier, no idea.
03-11-2008, 06:27 PM
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I spoke with Bob tonight and he said 14lb for a painted kit Electra
I’ll start the fit out on mine soon and see what we end up with.
Dave Wilshere
I’ll start the fit out on mine soon and see what we end up with.
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03-11-2008, 09:55 PM
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RE: BVM Electra ARF
I flew the new ARF Electra today and I was very impressed with it's performance, it was like flying a mini Bandit very fun. I built it in about week and half, I beleive BV has the new instruction manual complete for the ARF, I had a rough copy but still found it easy to build. I didn't know what to expect from a electric powered jet but was very happy with the product and will definantly keep it and have some fun with it. Joey Tamez
03-12-2008, 03:19 AM
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RE: BVM Electra ARF
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Matt
I guess a P60 would be nice
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Matt
I guess a P60 would be nice
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03-12-2008, 01:13 PM
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RE: BVM Electra ARF
Yes it is Kirk. They are very well done, light glass work and high quality paint work too.
Bob
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do you know if this Electra ARF is a composite style construction, painted in the mold like the bobcat / kingcat? with flex hinges?
do you know if this Electra ARF is a composite style construction, painted in the mold like the bobcat / kingcat? with flex hinges?
03-12-2008, 02:31 PM
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I was thinking the same thing amigo and think a Wren 44 would be just right.
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The Bandit ARF flys very fast with a P60. Wondering if a P60 is too much for the airframe? May be a smaller turbine than the 60 and less fuel to keep it light? Don't know, just thinking out loud!
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Matt
I guess a P60 would be nice
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I guess a P60 would be nice
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03-12-2008, 02:40 PM
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RE: BVM Electra ARF
Ali Flew his BVM Built Electra ARF at Florida Jets and was very impressed! he also picked up his ready built Electra for P60 power.
The Electra is not much smaller than a Bandit but a fair bit more slippery. i think it would be ideal with a P60
Dave
The Electra is not much smaller than a Bandit but a fair bit more slippery. i think it would be ideal with a P60
Dave
03-12-2008, 03:16 PM
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Ali Flew his BVM Built Electra ARF at Florida Jets and was very impressed! he also picked up his ready built Electra for P60 power.
The Electra is not much smaller than a Bandit but a fair bit more slippery. i think it would be ideal with a P60
Dave
Ali Flew his BVM Built Electra ARF at Florida Jets and was very impressed! he also picked up his ready built Electra for P60 power.
The Electra is not much smaller than a Bandit but a fair bit more slippery. i think it would be ideal with a P60
Dave
I just got off the phone with Ali. You guys make it back O.K.
My Electra should be here next week. I'll built it in the way that can easy swap turbine or EDF matter just hours. This airframe should be hot seller either EDF or P-60 power plant.
I thinks I had some sadder tanks in the shop will work with it. It got the hot bandit looks. But made it for Tam size airplane.
03-12-2008, 03:28 PM
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I was one of the first in the U.S. to build and fly the Electra kit. Mine wieghed 14 pounds ready to fly with batteries, real air operated aluminum retracts and dura struts. I did not use the EVF fan but rather opted for (in my opinion) a better fan made from carbon fiber. My electra was shown in the Whistling Watts section of RCJI a couple of months ago and was used in the Detailing and Weathering article I wrote that was in the last issue of RCJI. My electra was the first to approach 200 mph in straight and level flying and surpass 230 mph in dive like the BV team does when they are performing demo flights.
I haven't seen the ARF so I can't say if it would be in the same weight range.
For any naysayers that don't think electrics can approach the same speeds as turbines, here's a video link of a speed pass: [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240[/link]
Tam, are you going to put the DS-94 in yours?
Kirk
I haven't seen the ARF so I can't say if it would be in the same weight range.
For any naysayers that don't think electrics can approach the same speeds as turbines, here's a video link of a speed pass: [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240[/link]
Tam, are you going to put the DS-94 in yours?
Kirk
03-12-2008, 03:58 PM
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I was one of the first in the U.S. to build and fly the Electra kit. Mine wieghed 14 pounds ready to fly with batteries, real air operated aluminum retracts and dura struts. I did not use the EVF fan but rather opted for (in my opinion) a better fan made from carbon fiber. My electra was shown in the Whistling Watts section of RCJI a couple of months ago and was used in the Detailing and Weathering article I wrote that was in the last issue of RCJI. My electra was the first to approach 200 mph in straight and level flying and surpass 230 mph in dive like the BV team does when they are performing demo flights.
I haven't seen the ARF so I can't say if it would be in the same weight range.
For any naysayers that don't think electrics can approach the same speeds as turbines, here's a video link of a speed pass: [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240[/link]
Tam, are you going to put the DS-94 in yours?
Kirk
I was one of the first in the U.S. to build and fly the Electra kit. Mine wieghed 14 pounds ready to fly with batteries, real air operated aluminum retracts and dura struts. I did not use the EVF fan but rather opted for (in my opinion) a better fan made from carbon fiber. My electra was shown in the Whistling Watts section of RCJI a couple of months ago and was used in the Detailing and Weathering article I wrote that was in the last issue of RCJI. My electra was the first to approach 200 mph in straight and level flying and surpass 230 mph in dive like the BV team does when they are performing demo flights.
I haven't seen the ARF so I can't say if it would be in the same weight range.
For any naysayers that don't think electrics can approach the same speeds as turbines, here's a video link of a speed pass: [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240[/link]
Tam, are you going to put the DS-94 in yours?
Kirk
Too many choices and too many Lipo can't use in the Electra....[:@]
03-12-2008, 05:55 PM
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RE: BVM Electra ARF
Aloha Kirk
do you think, as one of the first operational electra drivers out there, that a reasonable amount of fuel (60-80oz) could be safely carried/installed into the electra?
i.e. do you think a full bypass system for a P60 (my preference is for a Wren 44) could be reasonably installed into the electra.
do you think, as one of the first operational electra drivers out there, that a reasonable amount of fuel (60-80oz) could be safely carried/installed into the electra?
i.e. do you think a full bypass system for a P60 (my preference is for a Wren 44) could be reasonably installed into the electra.
ORIGINAL: k_sonn
I was one of the first in the U.S. to build and fly the Electra kit. Mine wieghed 14 pounds ready to fly with batteries, real air operated aluminum retracts and dura struts. I did not use the EVF fan but rather opted for (in my opinion) a better fan made from carbon fiber. My electra was shown in the Whistling Watts section of RCJI a couple of months ago and was used in the Detailing and Weathering article I wrote that was in the last issue of RCJI. My electra was the first to approach 200 mph in straight and level flying and surpass 230 mph in dive like the BV team does when they are performing demo flights.
I haven't seen the ARF so I can't say if it would be in the same weight range.
For any naysayers that don't think electrics can approach the same speeds as turbines, here's a video link of a speed pass: [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240[/link]
Tam, are you going to put the DS-94 in yours?
Kirk
I was one of the first in the U.S. to build and fly the Electra kit. Mine wieghed 14 pounds ready to fly with batteries, real air operated aluminum retracts and dura struts. I did not use the EVF fan but rather opted for (in my opinion) a better fan made from carbon fiber. My electra was shown in the Whistling Watts section of RCJI a couple of months ago and was used in the Detailing and Weathering article I wrote that was in the last issue of RCJI. My electra was the first to approach 200 mph in straight and level flying and surpass 230 mph in dive like the BV team does when they are performing demo flights.
I haven't seen the ARF so I can't say if it would be in the same weight range.
For any naysayers that don't think electrics can approach the same speeds as turbines, here's a video link of a speed pass: [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240[/link]
Tam, are you going to put the DS-94 in yours?
Kirk
03-12-2008, 10:23 PM
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Hey Buck,
You only need 32-48oz of fuel for the 44.
My Savex L-39 that I fly carries 32oz of fuel, and I have the timer set for 7mins, and that still gives me probably 2mins of fuel reserves, plus my 2oz feed tank. With 80oz you'd fly all day......
See you at the lake soon (once my 44 gets back from a checkup at Wren)
Paul
You only need 32-48oz of fuel for the 44.
My Savex L-39 that I fly carries 32oz of fuel, and I have the timer set for 7mins, and that still gives me probably 2mins of fuel reserves, plus my 2oz feed tank. With 80oz you'd fly all day......
See you at the lake soon (once my 44 gets back from a checkup at Wren)
Paul
03-12-2008, 10:38 PM
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Paul
thanks for the info. I couldn't remember how much you were using in the 39 and was hoping you would cruise through this thread.
32oz would be tremendously easy to install into the Electra. assuming you didn't want to fabricate special fuel tanks etc...... a pair of DF saddle tanks and a 10oz hopper would give the 32oz. with ease.
we'll have to see what Tam comes up with regarding a plug-n-play system for Turbine / Electric. could be a viable project for someone whose flying field is limited by seasonal fire hazards (ahem....Miramar)
good field, dudes and fun
thanks for the info. I couldn't remember how much you were using in the 39 and was hoping you would cruise through this thread.
32oz would be tremendously easy to install into the Electra. assuming you didn't want to fabricate special fuel tanks etc...... a pair of DF saddle tanks and a 10oz hopper would give the 32oz. with ease.
we'll have to see what Tam comes up with regarding a plug-n-play system for Turbine / Electric. could be a viable project for someone whose flying field is limited by seasonal fire hazards (ahem....Miramar)
good field, dudes and fun
03-12-2008, 10:47 PM
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RE: BVM Electra ARF
Hi guys,
A couple of years ago BV talked about making a swap kit to convert the Electra back and forth from electric to turbine for a P-60 (tanks, bypass, thrust tube, etc). Was there anything shown at FL along those lines?
Seems like a big plane for a 44, a friend has a savex and it is a rocket with a 44 but it strikes me as being maybe 1/2 the size of the electra, who knows.
A couple of years ago BV talked about making a swap kit to convert the Electra back and forth from electric to turbine for a P-60 (tanks, bypass, thrust tube, etc). Was there anything shown at FL along those lines?
Seems like a big plane for a 44, a friend has a savex and it is a rocket with a 44 but it strikes me as being maybe 1/2 the size of the electra, who knows.
03-13-2008, 02:32 AM
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Mr M
I know uncle Bob has looked at it as possible.
I agree that the Electra is big for the 44, but it would fly very nicely with the Gold 44...no speed machine but nice all the same.
Dave W
I know uncle Bob has looked at it as possible.
I agree that the Electra is big for the 44, but it would fly very nicely with the Gold 44...no speed machine but nice all the same.
Dave W
03-13-2008, 12:39 PM
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Aloha Kirk
do you think, as one of the first operational electra drivers out there, that a reasonable amount of fuel (60-80oz) could be safely carried/installed into the electra?
i.e. do you think a full bypass system for a P60 (my preference is for a Wren 44) could be reasonably installed into the electra.
Aloha Kirk
do you think, as one of the first operational electra drivers out there, that a reasonable amount of fuel (60-80oz) could be safely carried/installed into the electra?
i.e. do you think a full bypass system for a P60 (my preference is for a Wren 44) could be reasonably installed into the electra.
ORIGINAL: k_sonn
I was one of the first in the U.S. to build and fly the Electra kit. Mine wieghed 14 pounds ready to fly with batteries, real air operated aluminum retracts and dura struts. I did not use the EVF fan but rather opted for (in my opinion) a better fan made from carbon fiber. My electra was shown in the Whistling Watts section of RCJI a couple of months ago and was used in the Detailing and Weathering article I wrote that was in the last issue of RCJI. My electra was the first to approach 200 mph in straight and level flying and surpass 230 mph in dive like the BV team does when they are performing demo flights.
I haven't seen the ARF so I can't say if it would be in the same weight range.
For any naysayers that don't think electrics can approach the same speeds as turbines, here's a video link of a speed pass: [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240[/link]
Tam, are you going to put the DS-94 in yours?
Kirk
I was one of the first in the U.S. to build and fly the Electra kit. Mine wieghed 14 pounds ready to fly with batteries, real air operated aluminum retracts and dura struts. I did not use the EVF fan but rather opted for (in my opinion) a better fan made from carbon fiber. My electra was shown in the Whistling Watts section of RCJI a couple of months ago and was used in the Detailing and Weathering article I wrote that was in the last issue of RCJI. My electra was the first to approach 200 mph in straight and level flying and surpass 230 mph in dive like the BV team does when they are performing demo flights.
I haven't seen the ARF so I can't say if it would be in the same weight range.
For any naysayers that don't think electrics can approach the same speeds as turbines, here's a video link of a speed pass: [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747240[/link]
Tam, are you going to put the DS-94 in yours?
Kirk
If the Electra ARF fuse is the same as the Electra kit fuse then some re-enforcement may need to be added for turbine use. The kit fuse has kevlar in the nose. The nose also has some carbon fiber in the nose gear area and there's carbon fiber where the fan mount former gets glued. That's it (see photos). Also, the retracts for the kit sold by BV are not aluminum. From photos I've seen, they look like they are made from the same material as the flex plates and they are operated with two servos (one for the mains and one for the nose). The struts are wire and the recommended wheels are Dubro foam wheels (no brakes). One of the photos below shows the retracts, struts, and wheels I used.
Kirk