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Old 09-05-2008 | 07:47 PM
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Eddie,

The OUTLAW is being painted now, should be finished for pickup next weekend. I'm going to Fresno Jets a couple days early and will possibly put first flights then prior to the meet.

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Old 09-05-2008 | 09:27 PM
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Do any of you guys have ideas on what servo's you will be putting in all the surfaces of your F-18?
Old 09-05-2008 | 10:39 PM
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What is the cost and the power output of the Mammoth?
Old 09-05-2008 | 10:40 PM
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I'm lucky Number 9, should be in my hands in less than 2 weeks.

Servo selection for me is something like this:

Elevator 2x Jr DS 8711
Rudder 2x Jr 8411
Flaps 2x Jr 8611
Ailorons 2x 8411
Steering 1 x 4721 metel gear

air power Ev-5 for gear doors/gear/brakes
Old 09-05-2008 | 11:05 PM
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ORIGINAL: David Jackson

What is the cost and the power output of the Mammoth?
Same price as the P-180: $4495

Smaller than the P-180...

Faster spool-up than the P-180...

Lighter than the P-180...

Same thrust as the P-180: 45lbs
Old 09-06-2008 | 01:45 PM
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Kmarks, I did manage to get the promo deal on the F-18 F. Looks like I am 4 weeks away from receiving the plane.
Old 09-07-2008 | 12:54 PM
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Hi All

Have you checked out the latest pics of the F18F, i cant wait for mine to arrive.

http://www.flyeaglejet.com/f18.html

http://www.flyeaglejet.com/F18F%20In...20Manuals.html
Old 09-07-2008 | 02:07 PM
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The pictures show a functional canopy. Is that a standard item included in the promo deal, or is it an optional item? The plane does look sweet. Perhaps I can get this one started, finished and flying before the end of the year. The main tank looks to be quite large. Any idea of its capacity?
Old 09-07-2008 | 02:35 PM
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Hey guys,

They look fantastic!

I've been looking at the Skymaster and FB F18F's for some time, but I like the look of the new Flyeagle. I've had an FB kit (velox) and had a few issues with the quality of some parts.

I notice there are no prices on the site. I understand the first few are coming out at a deal price, but does anyone know what the standard retail will be for them?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on the models when you get them.

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Old 09-07-2008 | 02:41 PM
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If you look at the Troybuilt and Airwild hobbies websites, the price each shows is approximately $3290. This is still not bad considering what you get for the price, if the quality if good. You might also contact James Chen at Eagle Jet LLC to see if the promo deal is still available.
Old 09-07-2008 | 06:07 PM
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Thanks David,

You're right, I think that is a good price as long as the quality is up to scratch!

I'm just finishing an F15 right now with a Typhoon (Euro) waiting in the wings! I have plenty of work to be doing, but - as with all modellers - I'm always on the look out for the next project. An F18 has been on the cards for a long time, but I just love the F18F. So I'm keen to hear what you guys think of your kits when you get them.

Thanks,

Chris
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Hi All

I asked James what the capacity is in the tanks and he said that they hold between 5-6 KG of fuel so thats about 5-6 litres, should be more than enough. I going to put either a amt olympus in @ 51.4 lb or a jetcat p180 not sure yet.

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Old 09-08-2008 | 03:52 PM
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Hi All i am no 5 F18f should arrive next week according to james will post pic as soon as it gets here Regards Keith W
Old 09-08-2008 | 04:16 PM
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I'm number 13. Plane scheduled to arrive in 4 weeks from now.
Gary, the kerosene density is 0,7 and not 1. Therefore 5-6kgs of kerosene are worth 7 to 8,5 liters...
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Hi All

Olnico cheers for that good info and good to know, im No 20 ish in the que can't wait. What engines are people thinking of putting in, i think i will go for the AMT Olympus.

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Gary

what's the price of that AMT?

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HI All

DJ the AMT Olympus is around £4000 all in

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FEJ are saying that the F18 should weigh around 30lbs,so with full fuel load that makes about 35/36lbs.If an engine of that thrust is used we would still have around 1 to1 thrust to weight ratio is that not enough!!Big engines are more weight use more fuel which means less time in the air,It is a fact that light planes fly better than heavy ones,i have just finnished a Tri-star which with fuel is 30lb,with a Wren super sport for power [18lbs thrust] fly,s great,climbout is at 45degrees and will cruise at under half throttle!just a few thoughts in the end we all do what we want regards KeithW
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Keith, a few considerations though:

The Y pipe may induce a thrust loss of up to 20% ( not everybody is as skilled as Tam )
Look at the rear part of the intake: the shape is not very aerodynamical and will induce a lot of drag.




The original plane is draggy per design. From what I've seen so far the scaled versions of this plane have always needed a lot of thrust.

A 45 lbs engine might give less than 40 lbs of thrust in this setup and the fully loaded plane might weight around 45 lbs with 6 kgs of fuel ( which equals to 13 lbs, not 6... ).

I've gone for a P-180 by the way...
Old 09-09-2008 | 03:42 PM
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Guys, a more realistic weight for this aircraft will be 46-52 lbs ready for takeoff. The F-18F is approximately the same size/volume as the CompArf Mig29, which when built properly just barely makes the WJM 20KG weight limit which equates to about 44lbs dry. Depending on fuel carried you will easily add another 6-10lbs. If the F-18F is built to the same weight savings standard as the Mig you'll be in the previously mentioned range.

My goal for #1 is to simply beat the 55lb takeoff requirement for AMA. I built a CJM 1/7 F-18E twin, which is almost exactly the same size as the FlyEagle F-18F and it came out at 49lbs dry, well over the 55lbs limit when loaded with 300 oz of fuel. That airplane was admittedly a bit heavy in construction so I do believe FlyEagle can do better, but hopefully not too much better. Nothing comes for free when designing aircraft. In order to save weight you have to give up something,usually strength and or durablity. I'd rather have a slightly heavier aircraft that can stand up to some punishment than one that breaks on the first hard landing or comes apart in the air as one of the CJM F-18s did at a major jet event a couple years ago.

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Oliver

Mammoth for me#11 [X(] and my bird is #23

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Old 09-09-2008 | 06:41 PM
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Glad to here you cleared up the weight issue, Tam's F18 weight is 34 lbs dry and with the size difference it has to weigh more. I hope there is a cross brace on the main wing former or its going to be a smoking hole.
Old 09-09-2008 | 06:56 PM
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Kelly,

Looks like they have provision for a cross brace just like the Tam F-18F. Same place as well. See the photo.

David S
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Old 09-09-2008 | 07:05 PM
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David, as you are #1 and should recieve your kit soon, please inform all of us of your initial findings. I spoke to James today from Fly Eagle Jets and he said the first 4 or five are just about done and will be shipped out soon, if not already. As for my #9, that will be ready in approx 2 more weeks,,, AAARRRGGG!!!!!

I noticed that in the instruction photos there is a air cylinder that opens and closes the canopy, I asked James about this and I think he said due to the delay in shipping that they will include this feature for free. If you have spoke to James before you will know what I mean when I say I beleive this is what he said. He needs to take english lessons from Tam, then he would be golden, he he he.

Also any opinions on cutting a grove out on the main landing gear plate to allow room for the inner gear door cylinder mount, I do see there is a carbon plate, but my guess is it would be a lot stronger if intact.

Old 09-09-2008 | 07:22 PM
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Kevin,

As per my last communication with James, by email,(things are clearer both ways when written than trying to speak in english), my F-18 should ship tomorrow.

David


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