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Old 10-15-2008 | 04:43 PM
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Hey all, i see that A123's have caught on like wildfire. My question is, which is good for the JetCat ECU's v 6.0 and also the smart-fly EQ-10with JR 921 Receiver? I mean as far as cell count and MAH rating. Also, what packs is everyone using, SinCity, Duralite....etc?? Thanks in advance. Nick
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http://electrodynam.com/store/EDN.html

Totally happy with these. 2X 2S1P for the Rx (no regulator or switches direct to AR9000) and 3S1P on the JetCat ECU. 31 flights and counting.

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Old 10-15-2008 | 05:56 PM
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Sweet Ken. I was wondering what packs you showed me out at Woodland. Did you solder your own connector for the ecu hook up or did they come pre-made?

Also, how many flights per charge on the ecu??
Old 10-15-2008 | 07:30 PM
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Hi Nick, I am slowly switching everything (even my air pump) over to 123s. I dont have that much time on them yet but am very happy with them so far. They are listed as 2300Ma but I am getting about 2000 out of them. For me they scratch my itch for the following reasons:
1-retain 95% of charge for a month (unlike NiMh or Nicd) This works well for me as I dont get to fly very often. With Nimh if you let them set you get false peaks if you fast charge them.
2-true 1000 cycle life times. Lipos state 2-300 but I have never even come close to that before capacity drops
3-No need for a regulator- nuff said
4-Dont blow up if over charged. You can kill them by ovrecharging but they wont blow. (ask me how I know)
5-Tuff to kill them by overdischarging
6-You can charge them at 10 honest to god amps. You can top off after a flight in the time it takes to fuel
yes or nos-
1-They are light but bulky so not so great for tight quarters (never usually an issue)
2-Need a special charger.
3-They are getting REAL DAMM expensive

You will love them, Scotty
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Nick,
JetCat sells an dedicated ECU JetBlackPack; 3 cell lithium nano-phosphate (A123) which includes the connector..
P/N is A1022C Voltage is 9.9 VDC, capacity is 2300 Ma.
Price $59.95.
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Thanks Harley and Scotty!
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What about for Tams smoke system? Would the 6.6 packs work? Trying to place an order and would love to know. Thanks, Nick
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I am switching a few planes to 2.4 and wondeirng about how the JR 1221 and the Jet ECU handle these cells and theier unregulated voltage?

I am either going to go with 2 -A123 into the 1221 or 2 -LiMN into a turbo regulator (prefer to avoid the reg if possible) into the 1221

I like the idea of being able to top off every 1-2 flights too(even thouh gthere should be plenty of reserve..)

Thanks,

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People using the Cellpro 10s or 4s? I think the 10s supports two batteries at a time right??
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Hi, running dual 123s without a regulator into a 1221 with high power digitals on everything. So far all is good. Knock on balsa. Scotty
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It sounds like the receivers can all handle the high, unregulated voltage, but what about the servos? I know that running five cell NiCds and NiMhs also have a high voltage, but that is fresh off a charge. The depress rapidly. I am concerned about higher servo wear at prolonged voltages of around 6.6 volts. Any hard data? Thanks.
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It sounds like the receivers can all handle the high, unregulated voltage, but what about the servos? I know that running five cell NiCds and NiMhs also have a high voltage, but that is fresh off a charge. The depress rapidly. I am concerned about higher servo wear at prolonged voltages of around 6.6 volts. Any hard data? Thanks.
After a flight my 5 cell NiCds still read ~6.5 volts.
Edit: Oops, I forgot they go through my MPX Rx
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Scott, i am running a smartfly eq-10 in my bandit, so regulation should be fine to the servos. I have heard these things are great, i am looking forward to the change. I think i am just going to order the cellpro 10s, because it will charge up to 2 5s packs togethor. Nick
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ORIGINAL: ddennison


I like the idea of being able to top off every 1-2 flights too(even thouh gthere should be plenty of reserve..)

Thanks,

Dave
What's the average charge time for these at the field, and can I use my Accu-Cycle Elite to charge them ?

... zak
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http://www.electrodynam.com/rc/EDNan...nd_Feeding.pdf

http://www.electrodynam.com/rc/EDNano/ED-Nano_Flyer.pdf
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I am using the Duralites Li-mang. without any problem. Also the help with the balancing of the plane.
They can be charged with the Duralite charger.
Last time after 4 flights the volt. marked 7.2.

Hector
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The CellPro 10S is a fantastic charger and extremely safe. You will never want to be without one.
I have two!


ORIGINAL: NickC5FE

Scott, i am running a smartfly eq-10 in my bandit, so regulation should be fine to the servos. I have heard these things are great, i am looking forward to the change. I think i am just going to order the cellpro 10s, because it will charge up to 2 5s packs togethor. Nick
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The Thunderpower 610C is a good choice for chargers as well. i'm planning on balance charging my dual 2 cell receiver packs as a single 4 cell pack, even though the batteries are actually seperate. Planning on doing the same thing w/ the dual 3 cell ECU packs.
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AWESOME INFO!! Thanks

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