Flyeaglejet F-14 first look
01-09-2009, 02:21 PM
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Flyeaglejet F-14 first look
Gents,
here we go .....
first pics of the all new F-14 from Flyeaglejet .....
and a small video from the swing wing .....
[link=http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=C9AJzqEkDCc]Swing wing[/link]
here we go .....
first pics of the all new F-14 from Flyeaglejet .....
and a small video from the swing wing .....
[link=http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=C9AJzqEkDCc]Swing wing[/link]
01-09-2009, 03:54 PM
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Wingspan and length??
Wing sweep looks to be about correct speed wise.
Looks good. Price???
Best estimates for delivery.
Wingspan and length??
Wing sweep looks to be about correct speed wise.
Looks good. Price???
Best estimates for delivery.
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You are correct so the rudders are wrong, Rudders are canted outward a few degrees. Not a lot but enough to notice. Could be the rudders are not connected fully and outward cant will show up then.
I want an F-14 this size but I am going to wait for several models to come out from different manufacturers to pick one. By the time you finish something like that it is a $15-$20K plus model and if the swept wings and the glove that covers them at connection point are not right that plane will come apart at the speeds one can get with twin 22kg turbines. This plane if fully functional needs a 12+ channel radio and every electronic goody one can think of to keep it in the air.
This plane needs to be handed to one of the people on here that has extensive experience building and flying complicated airframes. They need at least three guys to build and fly this plane hard and then return planes with suggested enhancements and changes and actually listen to them and check airframes extensively for any sign of weakness. FeiBao will do this with its list of expert builders and flyers.
Except for a harier vertical takeoff this is as complicated as it gets if everything works as it should with functional spoilers which are separated into 4 sections on each wing , flaps which are separated into 3 sections for each wing , tailerons/elevons, sweep wing time of 6.4 seconds, the ability to turn spoliers off and switch to taileron/elevon mix when wing sweep reaches 57 degrees. The slats and flaps are actually used in slow speed combat manuevering. The outer two sections of flaps drop to 10 degrees and slat droops to 8.5 degrees.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-history-f14x.htm
a great site for all things F-14.
If you read the story on this page it will make you a little sick if you love tomcats. The F-14 super tomact was cheaper and better than the F-15E/F which required a completely new airframe but being our government why go for something cheaper and better when you can spend more money and make certain companies richer and technically NOT produce a better aircraft. I realize this is biased towards the F-14 but I have read the same many other places.
One of my favorite pictures.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-photo-vf011-36.htm
I want an F-14 this size but I am going to wait for several models to come out from different manufacturers to pick one. By the time you finish something like that it is a $15-$20K plus model and if the swept wings and the glove that covers them at connection point are not right that plane will come apart at the speeds one can get with twin 22kg turbines. This plane if fully functional needs a 12+ channel radio and every electronic goody one can think of to keep it in the air.
This plane needs to be handed to one of the people on here that has extensive experience building and flying complicated airframes. They need at least three guys to build and fly this plane hard and then return planes with suggested enhancements and changes and actually listen to them and check airframes extensively for any sign of weakness. FeiBao will do this with its list of expert builders and flyers.
Except for a harier vertical takeoff this is as complicated as it gets if everything works as it should with functional spoilers which are separated into 4 sections on each wing , flaps which are separated into 3 sections for each wing , tailerons/elevons, sweep wing time of 6.4 seconds, the ability to turn spoliers off and switch to taileron/elevon mix when wing sweep reaches 57 degrees. The slats and flaps are actually used in slow speed combat manuevering. The outer two sections of flaps drop to 10 degrees and slat droops to 8.5 degrees.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-history-f14x.htm
a great site for all things F-14.
If you read the story on this page it will make you a little sick if you love tomcats. The F-14 super tomact was cheaper and better than the F-15E/F which required a completely new airframe but being our government why go for something cheaper and better when you can spend more money and make certain companies richer and technically NOT produce a better aircraft. I realize this is biased towards the F-14 but I have read the same many other places.
One of my favorite pictures.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-photo-vf011-36.htm
01-09-2009, 06:32 PM
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Looks realy realy nice [sm=thumbup.gif]
Looks like there is a shadow under the tail fins on the outboard side, so they will cant outwards when installed correctly
Looks like there is a shadow under the tail fins on the outboard side, so they will cant outwards when installed correctly
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OH the DRAMA....complicated airframe....
Pointy end goes first, watch your roll rate with the wings swept, and get'er done.
Looks really good....consider me in line for one when the time comes....
Pointy end goes first, watch your roll rate with the wings swept, and get'er done.
Looks really good....consider me in line for one when the time comes....
01-09-2009, 08:12 PM
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ORIGINAL: rhallgarth
Except for a harier vertical takeoff this is as complicated as it gets if everything works as it should with functional spoilers which are separated into 4 sections on each wing , flaps which are separated into 3 sections for each wing , tailerons/elevons, sweep wing time of 6.4 seconds, the ability to turn spoliers off and switch to taileron/elevon mix when wing sweep reaches 57 degrees. The slats and flaps are actually used in slow speed combat manuevering. The outer two sections of flaps drop to 10 degrees and slat droops to 8.5 degrees.
Except for a harier vertical takeoff this is as complicated as it gets if everything works as it should with functional spoilers which are separated into 4 sections on each wing , flaps which are separated into 3 sections for each wing , tailerons/elevons, sweep wing time of 6.4 seconds, the ability to turn spoliers off and switch to taileron/elevon mix when wing sweep reaches 57 degrees. The slats and flaps are actually used in slow speed combat manuevering. The outer two sections of flaps drop to 10 degrees and slat droops to 8.5 degrees.
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You are correct so the rudders are wrong, Rudders are canted outward a few degrees. Not a lot but enough to notice. Could be the rudders are not connected fully and outward cant will show up then.
I want an F-14 this size but I am going to wait for several models to come out from different manufacturers to pick one. By the time you finish something like that it is a $15-$20K plus model and if the swept wings and the glove that covers them at connection point are not right that plane will come apart at the speeds one can get with twin 22kg turbines. This plane if fully functional needs a 12+ channel radio and every electronic goody one can think of to keep it in the air.
This plane needs to be handed to one of the people on here that has extensive experience building and flying complicated airframes. They need at least three guys to build and fly this plane hard and then return planes with suggested enhancements and changes and actually listen to them and check airframes extensively for any sign of weakness. FeiBao will do this with its list of expert builders and flyers.
Except for a harier vertical takeoff this is as complicated as it gets if everything works as it should with functional spoilers which are separated into 4 sections on each wing , flaps which are separated into 3 sections for each wing , tailerons/elevons, sweep wing time of 6.4 seconds, the ability to turn spoliers off and switch to taileron/elevon mix when wing sweep reaches 57 degrees. The slats and flaps are actually used in slow speed combat manuevering. The outer two sections of flaps drop to 10 degrees and slat droops to 8.5 degrees.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-history-f14x.htm
a great site for all things F-14.
If you read the story on this page it will make you a little sick if you love tomcats. The F-14 super tomact was cheaper and better than the F-15E/F which required a completely new airframe but being our government why go for something cheaper and better when you can spend more money and make certain companies richer and technically NOT produce a better aircraft. I realize this is biased towards the F-14 but I have read the same many other places.
One of my favorite pictures.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-photo-vf011-36.htm
You are correct so the rudders are wrong, Rudders are canted outward a few degrees. Not a lot but enough to notice. Could be the rudders are not connected fully and outward cant will show up then.
I want an F-14 this size but I am going to wait for several models to come out from different manufacturers to pick one. By the time you finish something like that it is a $15-$20K plus model and if the swept wings and the glove that covers them at connection point are not right that plane will come apart at the speeds one can get with twin 22kg turbines. This plane if fully functional needs a 12+ channel radio and every electronic goody one can think of to keep it in the air.
This plane needs to be handed to one of the people on here that has extensive experience building and flying complicated airframes. They need at least three guys to build and fly this plane hard and then return planes with suggested enhancements and changes and actually listen to them and check airframes extensively for any sign of weakness. FeiBao will do this with its list of expert builders and flyers.
Except for a harier vertical takeoff this is as complicated as it gets if everything works as it should with functional spoilers which are separated into 4 sections on each wing , flaps which are separated into 3 sections for each wing , tailerons/elevons, sweep wing time of 6.4 seconds, the ability to turn spoliers off and switch to taileron/elevon mix when wing sweep reaches 57 degrees. The slats and flaps are actually used in slow speed combat manuevering. The outer two sections of flaps drop to 10 degrees and slat droops to 8.5 degrees.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-history-f14x.htm
a great site for all things F-14.
If you read the story on this page it will make you a little sick if you love tomcats. The F-14 super tomact was cheaper and better than the F-15E/F which required a completely new airframe but being our government why go for something cheaper and better when you can spend more money and make certain companies richer and technically NOT produce a better aircraft. I realize this is biased towards the F-14 but I have read the same many other places.
One of my favorite pictures.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-photo-vf011-36.htm
Step back and breath a bit................Mercy.
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01-09-2009, 10:13 PM
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RE: Flyeaglejet F-14 first look
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Are they really looking at doing the flaps, LE slats and spoilers??
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Except for a harier vertical takeoff this is as complicated as it gets if everything works as it should with functional spoilers which are separated into 4 sections on each wing , flaps which are separated into 3 sections for each wing , tailerons/elevons, sweep wing time of 6.4 seconds, the ability to turn spoliers off and switch to taileron/elevon mix when wing sweep reaches 57 degrees. The slats and flaps are actually used in slow speed combat manuevering. The outer two sections of flaps drop to 10 degrees and slat droops to 8.5 degrees.
Except for a harier vertical takeoff this is as complicated as it gets if everything works as it should with functional spoilers which are separated into 4 sections on each wing , flaps which are separated into 3 sections for each wing , tailerons/elevons, sweep wing time of 6.4 seconds, the ability to turn spoliers off and switch to taileron/elevon mix when wing sweep reaches 57 degrees. The slats and flaps are actually used in slow speed combat manuevering. The outer two sections of flaps drop to 10 degrees and slat droops to 8.5 degrees.
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Because of pure simplicity. Taking spoilers and slats out will simplify the operation of the plane without hindering performance. I am sure the F-14 would fly fine with elevons. I am eagerly awaiting the Skymaster one, especially with the new Pro versions, should be exceptional!!
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Step back and breath a bit................Mercy. Mission impossible it's not.
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You are correct so the rudders are wrong, Rudders are canted outward a few degrees. Not a lot but enough to notice. Could be the rudders are not connected fully and outward cant will show up then.
I want an F-14 this size but I am going to wait for several models to come out from different manufacturers to pick one. By the time you finish something like that it is a $15-$20K plus model and if the swept wings and the glove that covers them at connection point are not right that plane will come apart at the speeds one can get with twin 22kg turbines. This plane if fully functional needs a 12+ channel radio and every electronic goody one can think of to keep it in the air.
This plane needs to be handed to one of the people on here that has extensive experience building and flying complicated airframes. They need at least three guys to build and fly this plane hard and then return planes with suggested enhancements and changes and actually listen to them and check airframes extensively for any sign of weakness. FeiBao will do this with its list of expert builders and flyers.
Except for a harier vertical takeoff this is as complicated as it gets if everything works as it should with functional spoilers which are separated into 4 sections on each wing , flaps which are separated into 3 sections for each wing , tailerons/elevons, sweep wing time of 6.4 seconds, the ability to turn spoliers off and switch to taileron/elevon mix when wing sweep reaches 57 degrees. The slats and flaps are actually used in slow speed combat manuevering. The outer two sections of flaps drop to 10 degrees and slat droops to 8.5 degrees.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-history-f14x.htm
a great site for all things F-14.
If you read the story on this page it will make you a little sick if you love tomcats. The F-14 super tomact was cheaper and better than the F-15E/F which required a completely new airframe but being our government why go for something cheaper and better when you can spend more money and make certain companies richer and technically NOT produce a better aircraft. I realize this is biased towards the F-14 but I have read the same many other places.
One of my favorite pictures.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-photo-vf011-36.htm
You are correct so the rudders are wrong, Rudders are canted outward a few degrees. Not a lot but enough to notice. Could be the rudders are not connected fully and outward cant will show up then.
I want an F-14 this size but I am going to wait for several models to come out from different manufacturers to pick one. By the time you finish something like that it is a $15-$20K plus model and if the swept wings and the glove that covers them at connection point are not right that plane will come apart at the speeds one can get with twin 22kg turbines. This plane if fully functional needs a 12+ channel radio and every electronic goody one can think of to keep it in the air.
This plane needs to be handed to one of the people on here that has extensive experience building and flying complicated airframes. They need at least three guys to build and fly this plane hard and then return planes with suggested enhancements and changes and actually listen to them and check airframes extensively for any sign of weakness. FeiBao will do this with its list of expert builders and flyers.
Except for a harier vertical takeoff this is as complicated as it gets if everything works as it should with functional spoilers which are separated into 4 sections on each wing , flaps which are separated into 3 sections for each wing , tailerons/elevons, sweep wing time of 6.4 seconds, the ability to turn spoliers off and switch to taileron/elevon mix when wing sweep reaches 57 degrees. The slats and flaps are actually used in slow speed combat manuevering. The outer two sections of flaps drop to 10 degrees and slat droops to 8.5 degrees.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-history-f14x.htm
a great site for all things F-14.
If you read the story on this page it will make you a little sick if you love tomcats. The F-14 super tomact was cheaper and better than the F-15E/F which required a completely new airframe but being our government why go for something cheaper and better when you can spend more money and make certain companies richer and technically NOT produce a better aircraft. I realize this is biased towards the F-14 but I have read the same many other places.
One of my favorite pictures.
http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-photo-vf011-36.htm
Step back and breath a bit................Mercy.
Mission impossible it's not. David Hudson
Besides the FEJ F-14 is a mute point for at least a year. They have not delivered a single F-15E as far as I know. They have the F-35 next in line. Not sure if there are others but that puts the F-14 first delivery some time in 2010 based on how they have performed so far. I believe the FeiBao F-14 will possibly be at one of early Jet meets in Florida. They also make better planes in general although I believe FEJ is trying hard and may catch up but feiBao has the advantage of extremely skilled builders and pilots testing and recommending changes to there design.
Nothing is impossible. I have learned through the years anything is possible with a thorough design and solid testing. How long did it take jack tse to get the original yellow F-14 into the air?? No offense meant to FEJ but nobody there belongs in the same room with him.
Sorry if I offended you with my comments since no offense was meant. Just a concern for doing this wonderful plane correctly.
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Hi
Actually FEJ have just shipped out some F-15`s. Why are you so critical to all new stuff? Complaining about angle`s and gear doors etc. It is only a model plane!!! relax and have fun with it. Remember it is ARF, and in my opinion it will never be a big scale project. If you want a scale plane to be proud of, get some plans and build it yourself from scratch. And you better do perfect, or else you will be dissed here on RCU;-)
Christian
Actually FEJ have just shipped out some F-15`s. Why are you so critical to all new stuff? Complaining about angle`s and gear doors etc. It is only a model plane!!! relax and have fun with it. Remember it is ARF, and in my opinion it will never be a big scale project. If you want a scale plane to be proud of, get some plans and build it yourself from scratch. And you better do perfect, or else you will be dissed here on RCU;-)
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Hi
Actually FEJ have just shipped out some F-15`s. Why are you so critical to all new stuff? Complaining about angle`s and gear doors etc. It is only a model plane!!! relax and have fun with it. Remember it is ARF, and in my opinion it will never be a big scale project. If you want a scale plane to be proud of, get some plans and build it yourself from scratch. And you better do perfect, or else you will be dissed here on RCU;-)
Christian
Hi
Actually FEJ have just shipped out some F-15`s. Why are you so critical to all new stuff? Complaining about angle`s and gear doors etc. It is only a model plane!!! relax and have fun with it. Remember it is ARF, and in my opinion it will never be a big scale project. If you want a scale plane to be proud of, get some plans and build it yourself from scratch. And you better do perfect, or else you will be dissed here on RCU;-)
Christian
I would guess the F-14 is going to cost around 5-6 thousand dollars from FEJ. That is a quite fair price. The swing wing mechanism, the wing box, and everything else necessary for the wing to swing is not cheep. Actually a lot of ARF jets are very scale. Tamjets, feiBao, and Skymaster are providing ARF kits that can be customized easily into very scale planes. The FEJ F-15E looks like it is quite scale. Scaling it out is actually quite fun.
Personally I have been told for a month it is close to done, done, ready to ship, and finished. I have received no photos but and this is an important but it appears the first one delivered looks really good so maybe it is good. If it is even 75% of my BVM F-86 all composite I will be happy.
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Hi Rallgarth
I`m talking about "all" the FEJ thrads: the F-16: wrong color, seems to be no wash out etc. F-15 Something strange on the gear doors. Things like that. As i said before: It is an ARF, GO FLY, HAVE FUN
Christian
I`m talking about "all" the FEJ thrads: the F-16: wrong color, seems to be no wash out etc. F-15 Something strange on the gear doors. Things like that. As i said before: It is an ARF, GO FLY, HAVE FUN
Christian
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RE: Flyeaglejet F-14 first look
They must be a little bit further head on this project than they are letting on.
Looks like this one is ready to fly, ops I see no canopy is in place yet for takeoff.
I see all the doors are in place too.
William
Looks like this one is ready to fly, ops I see no canopy is in place yet for takeoff.
I see all the doors are in place too.
William
01-10-2009, 10:00 AM
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Hi Rallgarth
I`m talking about "all" the FEJ thrads: the F-16: wrong color, seems to be no wash out etc. F-15 Something strange on the gear doors. Things like that. As i said before: It is an ARF, GO FLY, HAVE FUN
Christian
Hi Rallgarth
I`m talking about "all" the FEJ thrads: the F-16: wrong color, seems to be no wash out etc. F-15 Something strange on the gear doors. Things like that. As i said before: It is an ARF, GO FLY, HAVE FUN
Christian
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01-10-2009, 11:56 AM
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The F-14 looks good.. but doesn't look "right". The price is definately on point, but i'm afraid after seeing the pictures, it looks like i'm just going to have the scratch build the tomcat that "I" want (IE, completely scale). Again, it looks great, and for those who want a nice F-14 for a great price and to get it in the air quickly, this is a great option for them.
And i'm pretty sure the CG change "problem" everyone is so worried about is a bit of a mute point. Their's a few guys on here that have flown the Avonds, and the DCU/Jetmart Tomcats and from what my research has shown, they say the CG change is very negligible and it requires a slight mix. The biggest thing, is once the wings are swept back, their is less rotating mass in roll, so you have to cut the aileron rates Way down.
And i'm pretty sure the CG change "problem" everyone is so worried about is a bit of a mute point. Their's a few guys on here that have flown the Avonds, and the DCU/Jetmart Tomcats and from what my research has shown, they say the CG change is very negligible and it requires a slight mix. The biggest thing, is once the wings are swept back, their is less rotating mass in roll, so you have to cut the aileron rates Way down.
01-10-2009, 12:10 PM
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Hi Rallgarth
I`m talking about "all" the FEJ thrads: the F-16: wrong color, seems to be no wash out etc. F-15 Something strange on the gear doors. Things like that. As i said before: It is an ARF, GO FLY, HAVE FUN
Christian
Hi Rallgarth
I`m talking about "all" the FEJ thrads: the F-16: wrong color, seems to be no wash out etc. F-15 Something strange on the gear doors. Things like that. As i said before: It is an ARF, GO FLY, HAVE FUN
Christian
some people have to b!tch and complain to have fun
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some people have to b!tch and complain to have fun
ORIGINAL: Bob Toilet
Hi Rallgarth
I`m talking about "all" the FEJ thrads: the F-16: wrong color, seems to be no wash out etc. F-15 Something strange on the gear doors. Things like that. As i said before: It is an ARF, GO FLY, HAVE FUN
Christian
Hi Rallgarth
I`m talking about "all" the FEJ thrads: the F-16: wrong color, seems to be no wash out etc. F-15 Something strange on the gear doors. Things like that. As i said before: It is an ARF, GO FLY, HAVE FUN
Christian
some people have to b!tch and complain to have fun