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05-12-2009 | 01:42 AM
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RE: Why does it always happen to the good ones??
Even for me this weekend was very sad.
This is all that's left of my baby. [:@]
Booster 130 is already on the way to the service, I have been looking for a replacement for my new baby.
This is all that's left of my baby. [:@]
Booster 130 is already on the way to the service, I have been looking for a replacement for my new baby.
05-12-2009 | 02:08 AM
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Ali,
Sorry for the loss... How about posting pics of the hunter before she died? Would like to see how beautiful she looked.
Cheers
Sorry for the loss... How about posting pics of the hunter before she died? Would like to see how beautiful she looked.
Cheers
05-12-2009 | 05:33 AM
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RE: Why does it always happen to the good ones??
My new Cannon 50 certainly will and its very economical on battery power. Grat camara.
Now what can we all learn from this crash possibly to prevent a recurrence. ? Plenty of charge in the dual batteries !!
C'mon Ali waht happened ?
Regards, David Gladwin.
Now what can we all learn from this crash possibly to prevent a recurrence. ? Plenty of charge in the dual batteries !!
C'mon Ali waht happened ?
Regards, David Gladwin.
05-12-2009 | 06:11 AM
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RE: Why does it always happen to the good ones??
Reason for the crash.... I pulled instead of pushed [:@]
Sorry no idea on the camera spec. I will try and direct Barry the photographer on here to see if he can help.
Pjer. Sorry for your loss. Good on you for jumping straight back on and good luck with your new project. Thanks again guys for the words and emails of sympathy and kind words. I just stripped the remains today and threw away what's left. Turbine goes back to Cat today ( Fingers crossed )
Sorry no idea on the camera spec. I will try and direct Barry the photographer on here to see if he can help.
Pjer. Sorry for your loss. Good on you for jumping straight back on and good luck with your new project. Thanks again guys for the words and emails of sympathy and kind words. I just stripped the remains today and threw away what's left. Turbine goes back to Cat today ( Fingers crossed )
05-12-2009 | 06:34 AM
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RE: Why does it always happen to the good ones??
Shame to see a model as good as this go down so hard. 3 pages later and the cause is "pulled instead of pushed" . . . . . Not like you to do that. Any video of the flight ?
05-12-2009 | 06:41 AM
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Al, I'm glad you published the reason, that'll do all of us a lot of good to know that we are all human, thanks, it makes me personally feel a lot better to know that even you can make mistakes, well done mate.
Remember, you told me to get straight back on the wagon, I did and it's the best thing I ever did, had a lot of fun since.
That's why it's a mans hobby, not a boy's.
Remember, you told me to get straight back on the wagon, I did and it's the best thing I ever did, had a lot of fun since.
That's why it's a mans hobby, not a boy's.
05-12-2009 | 07:33 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ali
Reason for the crash.... I pulled instead of pushed [:@]
Reason for the crash.... I pulled instead of pushed [:@]
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05-12-2009 | 07:51 AM
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I don’t believe that of you Ali... us mortals....yes...but not you...
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ORIGINAL: Ali
Reason for the crash.... I pulled instead of pushed [:@]
Reason for the crash.... I pulled instead of pushed [:@]
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He'll be loosing his hair next and using just for men ........................ oops to late lol
05-12-2009 | 08:08 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ali
Reason for the crash.... I pulled instead of pushed [:@]
Reason for the crash.... I pulled instead of pushed [:@]
Oh come on Al, do you really expect us to believe that?
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05-12-2009 | 08:20 AM
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RE: Why does it always happen to the good ones??
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Oh come on Al, do you really expect us to believe that?
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ORIGINAL: Ali
Reason for the crash.... I pulled instead of pushed [:@]
Reason for the crash.... I pulled instead of pushed [:@]
Oh come on Al, do you really expect us to believe that?
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05-12-2009 | 08:43 AM
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Sorry to disappoint guys. ( But I love you anyway Ron )
Oh and Dunc.. I have been losing my hair since I was 19 so no surprises there mate. Definetly no just for men here, I might give the back to black silicone spray a try. it seems to work a treat for you
No idea right now what happened to be honest. I have narrowed it down to the following.
1) Battery died.... 6 volt 3300 mah Nimh that had been cycled 4 or 5 times from new. Yes I am sad to say there was only one rx battery installed in this model. I have given the going back to basics approach a try recently. One battery and no power boxes and such and it seemed to be working quite well ( Up until last Saturday anyway ) With the advent of Spektrum/ 2.4 I have never had so much trouble free flying and I guess I got complacent...
I have checked the battery back at the workshop ( This did involve pushing one cell that had separated in the crash) And this read 6.5 volts
2) Rx Died. JR 12 ch Rx with two satellites both extended. One to the ejection seat area of the cockpit, and the other to the lower side of the middle fuselage. Yes I was only using one Rx
Same reasons as above really.
I have not had a chance to look into that
I really cant see any other reason. The model was flying at about 3/4 throttle so not overly fast. I was just entering a slow roll so not huge load on servos or airframe, and noting fluttered or departed from the airframe.
Thats about it so far.
Analyze away.
Regards Al
) Oh and Dunc.. I have been losing my hair since I was 19 so no surprises there mate. Definetly no just for men here, I might give the back to black silicone spray a try. it seems to work a treat for you
No idea right now what happened to be honest. I have narrowed it down to the following.
1) Battery died.... 6 volt 3300 mah Nimh that had been cycled 4 or 5 times from new. Yes I am sad to say there was only one rx battery installed in this model. I have given the going back to basics approach a try recently. One battery and no power boxes and such and it seemed to be working quite well ( Up until last Saturday anyway ) With the advent of Spektrum/ 2.4 I have never had so much trouble free flying and I guess I got complacent...
I have checked the battery back at the workshop ( This did involve pushing one cell that had separated in the crash) And this read 6.5 volts
2) Rx Died. JR 12 ch Rx with two satellites both extended. One to the ejection seat area of the cockpit, and the other to the lower side of the middle fuselage. Yes I was only using one Rx
Same reasons as above really.I have not had a chance to look into that
I really cant see any other reason. The model was flying at about 3/4 throttle so not overly fast. I was just entering a slow roll so not huge load on servos or airframe, and noting fluttered or departed from the airframe.
Thats about it so far.
Analyze away.
Regards Al
05-12-2009 | 09:03 AM
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RE: Why does it always happen to the good ones??
ORIGINAL: Ali
Sorry to disappoint guys. ( But I love you anyway Ron )
Oh and Dunc.. I have been losing my hair since I was 19 so no surprises there mate. Definetly no just for men here, I might give the back to black silicone spray a try. it seems to work a treat for you
No idea right now what happened to be honest. I have narrowed it down to the following.
1) Battery died.... 6 volt 3300 mah Nimh that had been cycled 4 or 5 times from new. Yes I am sad to say there was only one rx battery installed in this model. I have given the going back to basics approach a try recently. One battery and no power boxes and such and it seemed to be working quite well ( Up until last Saturday anyway ) With the advent of Spektrum/ 2.4 I have never had so much trouble free flying and I guess I got complacent...
I have checked the battery back at the workshop ( This did involve pushing one cell that had separated in the crash) And this read 6.5 volts
2) Rx Died. JR 12 ch Rx with two satellites both extended. One to the ejection seat area of the cockpit, and the other to the lower side of the middle fuselage. Yes I was only using one Rx Same reasons as above really.
I have not had a chance to look into that
I really cant see any other reason. The model was flying at about 3/4 throttle so not overly fast. I was just entering a slow roll so not huge load on servos or airframe, and noting fluttered or departed from the airframe.
Thats about it so far.
Analyze away.
Regards Al
Sorry to disappoint guys. ( But I love you anyway Ron
) Oh and Dunc.. I have been losing my hair since I was 19 so no surprises there mate. Definetly no just for men here, I might give the back to black silicone spray a try. it seems to work a treat for you
No idea right now what happened to be honest. I have narrowed it down to the following.
1) Battery died.... 6 volt 3300 mah Nimh that had been cycled 4 or 5 times from new. Yes I am sad to say there was only one rx battery installed in this model. I have given the going back to basics approach a try recently. One battery and no power boxes and such and it seemed to be working quite well ( Up until last Saturday anyway ) With the advent of Spektrum/ 2.4 I have never had so much trouble free flying and I guess I got complacent...
I have checked the battery back at the workshop ( This did involve pushing one cell that had separated in the crash) And this read 6.5 volts
2) Rx Died. JR 12 ch Rx with two satellites both extended. One to the ejection seat area of the cockpit, and the other to the lower side of the middle fuselage. Yes I was only using one Rx
Same reasons as above really.I have not had a chance to look into that
I really cant see any other reason. The model was flying at about 3/4 throttle so not overly fast. I was just entering a slow roll so not huge load on servos or airframe, and noting fluttered or departed from the airframe.
Thats about it so far.
Analyze away.
Regards Al
and here I was sticking up for you and have to find out I was duped! Oh well I guess the moral or the story is to use some redundent systems and you will have a better chance at saving your model. No matter what the cause (unless you pull insted of push)
Ron
05-12-2009 | 09:29 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ali
Yes I was only using one Rx Same reasons as above really.
I have not had a chance to look into that
Yes I was only using one Rx
Same reasons as above really.I have not had a chance to look into that
Chad
05-12-2009 | 09:40 AM
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ORIGINAL: SinCityJets
Do some people use more than one receiver (aside from the satellite's)?? How would you even wire that up on a turbine?
Chad
ORIGINAL: Ali
Yes I was only using one Rx Same reasons as above really.
I have not had a chance to look into that
Yes I was only using one Rx
Same reasons as above really.I have not had a chance to look into that
Chad
If you use a power box royal it has a 2 reciver hook up. Wayne just installed one in my air world mig 21 2 futaba 14 channel recievers 2 batteries pretty much 2 of everything.
Ron
05-12-2009 | 09:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ali
Sorry to disappoint guys. ( But I love you anyway Ron )
Oh and Dunc.. I have been losing my hair since I was 19 so no surprises there mate. Definetly no just for men here, I might give the back to black silicone spray a try. it seems to work a treat for you
No idea right now what happened to be honest. I have narrowed it down to the following.
1) Battery died.... 6 volt 3300 mah Nimh that had been cycled 4 or 5 times from new. Yes I am sad to say there was only one rx battery installed in this model. I have given the going back to basics approach a try recently. One battery and no power boxes and such and it seemed to be working quite well ( Up until last Saturday anyway ) With the advent of Spektrum/ 2.4 I have never had so much trouble free flying and I guess I got complacent...
I have checked the battery back at the workshop ( This did involve pushing one cell that had separated in the crash) And this read 6.5 volts
2) Rx Died. JR 12 ch Rx with two satellites both extended. One to the ejection seat area of the cockpit, and the other to the lower side of the middle fuselage. Yes I was only using one Rx Same reasons as above really.
I have not had a chance to look into that
I really cant see any other reason. The model was flying at about 3/4 throttle so not overly fast. I was just entering a slow roll so not huge load on servos or airframe, and noting fluttered or departed from the airframe.
Thats about it so far.
Analyze away.
Regards Al
Sorry to disappoint guys. ( But I love you anyway Ron
) Oh and Dunc.. I have been losing my hair since I was 19 so no surprises there mate. Definetly no just for men here, I might give the back to black silicone spray a try. it seems to work a treat for you
No idea right now what happened to be honest. I have narrowed it down to the following.
1) Battery died.... 6 volt 3300 mah Nimh that had been cycled 4 or 5 times from new. Yes I am sad to say there was only one rx battery installed in this model. I have given the going back to basics approach a try recently. One battery and no power boxes and such and it seemed to be working quite well ( Up until last Saturday anyway ) With the advent of Spektrum/ 2.4 I have never had so much trouble free flying and I guess I got complacent...
I have checked the battery back at the workshop ( This did involve pushing one cell that had separated in the crash) And this read 6.5 volts
2) Rx Died. JR 12 ch Rx with two satellites both extended. One to the ejection seat area of the cockpit, and the other to the lower side of the middle fuselage. Yes I was only using one Rx
Same reasons as above really.I have not had a chance to look into that
I really cant see any other reason. The model was flying at about 3/4 throttle so not overly fast. I was just entering a slow roll so not huge load on servos or airframe, and noting fluttered or departed from the airframe.
Thats about it so far.
Analyze away.
Regards Al
i'm quite used to the buddist monk look that i have, it's a bit more fanshionable than the english monk look (bald spot) your going for lol
05-12-2009 | 09:49 AM
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RE: Why does it always happen to the good ones??
ORIGINAL: Ali
Sorry to disappoint guys. ( But I love you anyway Ron )
Oh and Dunc.. I have been losing my hair since I was 19 so no surprises there mate. Definetly no just for men here, I might give the back to black silicone spray a try. it seems to work a treat for you
No idea right now what happened to be honest. I have narrowed it down to the following.
1) Battery died.... 6 volt 3300 mah Nimh that had been cycled 4 or 5 times from new. Yes I am sad to say there was only one rx battery installed in this model. I have given the going back to basics approach a try recently. One battery and no power boxes and such and it seemed to be working quite well ( Up until last Saturday anyway ) With the advent of Spektrum/ 2.4 I have never had so much trouble free flying and I guess I got complacent...
I have checked the battery back at the workshop ( This did involve pushing one cell that had separated in the crash) And this read 6.5 volts
2) Rx Died. JR 12 ch Rx with two satellites both extended. One to the ejection seat area of the cockpit, and the other to the lower side of the middle fuselage. Yes I was only using one Rx Same reasons as above really.
I have not had a chance to look into that
I really cant see any other reason. The model was flying at about 3/4 throttle so not overly fast. I was just entering a slow roll so not huge load on servos or airframe, and noting fluttered or departed from the airframe.
Thats about it so far.
Analyze away.
Regards Al
Sorry to disappoint guys. ( But I love you anyway Ron
) Oh and Dunc.. I have been losing my hair since I was 19 so no surprises there mate. Definetly no just for men here, I might give the back to black silicone spray a try. it seems to work a treat for you
No idea right now what happened to be honest. I have narrowed it down to the following.
1) Battery died.... 6 volt 3300 mah Nimh that had been cycled 4 or 5 times from new. Yes I am sad to say there was only one rx battery installed in this model. I have given the going back to basics approach a try recently. One battery and no power boxes and such and it seemed to be working quite well ( Up until last Saturday anyway ) With the advent of Spektrum/ 2.4 I have never had so much trouble free flying and I guess I got complacent...
I have checked the battery back at the workshop ( This did involve pushing one cell that had separated in the crash) And this read 6.5 volts
2) Rx Died. JR 12 ch Rx with two satellites both extended. One to the ejection seat area of the cockpit, and the other to the lower side of the middle fuselage. Yes I was only using one Rx
Same reasons as above really.I have not had a chance to look into that
I really cant see any other reason. The model was flying at about 3/4 throttle so not overly fast. I was just entering a slow roll so not huge load on servos or airframe, and noting fluttered or departed from the airframe.
Thats about it so far.
Analyze away.
Regards Al
what did the ECU reported?
last shutdown ? or is that vaporised?
as for your reciever setup , i used the same setup on most our models (ar9000)
the 12X works fine with also 2 connected (you still have 3)
was the receiver a JR 12 channel?
we did have a dead receiver 2 weeks ago on our holiday.
on the PCB are 2 diodes that catch powerspikes , 1 was blown off for now apparent reason.
it leaves the power on the system,(including ECU) but it cuts the feed to the processor , and starts blinking. basicly DEAD (no signal to servo , surfaces will move by hand , no "hold" possible)
but it would leave the power on the jetcat and show a signal faillure.
if your last shutdown is a power failure then all power was cut , but can also come due to the crash.
but then interesting is at what rpm that was...
i mean if you had a failsafe your gear would have come also out right?
i tested a few things with Carsten on this , but we culd not figure out the faiilure.
i would be gratefull if you snapped a pic of your receivers guts...
05-12-2009 | 09:51 AM
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ORIGINAL: arizonasun25
Chad,
If you use a power box royal it has a 2 reciver hook up. Wayne just installed one in my air world mig 21 2 futaba 14 channel recievers 2 batteries pretty much 2 of everything.
Ron
ORIGINAL: SinCityJets
Do some people use more than one receiver (aside from the satellite's)?? How would you even wire that up on a turbine?
Chad
ORIGINAL: Ali
Yes I was only using one Rx Same reasons as above really.
I have not had a chance to look into that
Yes I was only using one Rx
Same reasons as above really.I have not had a chance to look into that
Chad
If you use a power box royal it has a 2 reciver hook up. Wayne just installed one in my air world mig 21 2 futaba 14 channel recievers 2 batteries pretty much 2 of everything.
Ron
So you could plug in two spektrum receivers to it and they would both bind to the radio at the same time?
