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Old 09-28-2009 | 08:50 PM
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I just started setting up my F-18 on my 12FGA/6014HS system today and here's what I have so far..

1-Elev1
2-Elev2
3-Ail1
4-Ail2
5-Flp1
6-Flp2
7-Rud1
8-Rud2
9-Throttle
10-Gear (EV5U Pro)
11-Brakes (EV5U Pro)
12-Nose wheel steering

I still need a channel for my speedbrake and 2 battery inputs.. I really don't want to have to Y anything.

Can my 12 FGA take advantage of the 14 channel RX somehow? Are there anyways to get around this? How would you set this up differently?

Thanks! Pete
Old 09-28-2009 | 08:56 PM
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a matchbox for the rudders and nose wheel steering will open up 2 channels.....
Old 09-28-2009 | 08:56 PM
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Pete,

Try a Smartfly EQ 10 or similar power expanders. You will be able to free up a few channels. [8D] Cheaper than purchasing a new radio system. Also, the EQ10 with a Turboreg will allow for dual battery connection to your system.
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Why not just Y the ailerons and 2 rudders and throw a matchbox in for the flaps..
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Pete,

Try a Smartfly EQ 10 or similar power expanders. You will be able to free up a few channels. [8D] Cheaper than purchasing a new radio system. Also, the EQ10 with a Turboreg will allow for dual battery connection to your system.
Ditto.....just scrap the turbo reg and run dual A123's.

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Old 09-28-2009 | 09:25 PM
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Ok, Im sorry, I just had a look and realized battery inputs are not on any channel. I can put batt2 on a DG.

Ill just have to y the rudders.

Thanks! Pete
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a matchbox for the rudders and nose wheel steering will open up 2 channels.....
Hi:

Do the Duralite Powerbox 40/16 do the same that a matchbox to open up 2 channels?
Old 09-28-2009 | 09:45 PM
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Dude,.. You need to call Airbus !!! tell them you need the BIG flight control system... I never heard of anybody running out of channels with a 12 channel radio !!!!!

Good Luck !!!

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.......I never heard of anybody running out of channels with a 12 channel radio !!!!!

i use a JR 12x w/ 12ch receiver in my JL F-15, all 12 channels are used and i have the flaps on a matchbox as well as both rudders and steering, it would take 15 channels to loose the matchboxes. good thing it doesn't have a functional canopy
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Can my 12 FGA take advantage of the 14 channel RX somehow? Are there anyways to get around this? How would you set this up differently?

Thanks! Pete
Yes, you might need a software update, but the 12FG can do 14 channels - the upper two are non-proportional...

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you can run the MPDX-1 as well, this can give you another 8-16 low update rate (but fully proportional channels), great for retracts, brakes, flaps, steering, etc.

You will run out of controls before you run out of channels!
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I believe you can do 14 channel with a 12Z / FASST / <span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; ">6014HS. If not, use a Y connector on both rudder. The 6014HS has a special connector for the battery. I usually connect the 2nd battery on the DG1 connector.</span><div><font size="3" face="Verdana, Arial"><span style="font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">
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But the 12FG is a 14 channel radio just like the 14MZ. It is exactly the same. Only channels 13 + 14 are not analogue but on-off.

So you can put on one of these channels your speed brake

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But the 12FG is a 14 channel radio just like the 14MZ. It is exactly the same. Only channels 13 + 14 are not analogue but on-off.

So you can put on one of these channels your speed brake

Tassos
Hey that works out great. I'm going to check on that today after work. How do you access the dg functions? Virtual channels?
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Can my 12 FGA take advantage of the 14 channel RX somehow? Are there anyways to get around this? How would you set this up differently?

Thanks! Pete
Yes, you might need a software update, but the 12FG can do 14 channels - the upper two are non-proportional...

Bob
Hey Bob, do Futaba update the 12FGA software for taking advance of 14 channels at no rate?

I want to ad a funtional canopy, speed brakes and leading edge flaps to my Skymaster F-16 1/8

I am also wondering to fire missiles

6 Missiles= One more channel with a round arm as a lever an 6 micro switches

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you can run the MPDX-1 as well, this can give you another 8-16 low update rate (but fully proportional channels), great for retracts, brakes, flaps, steering, etc.

You will run out of controls before you run out of channels!
Hey Matt, I just reviewed the Futaba specifications for the MPDX-1 and it just work with 6014HS FASST receiver? My reciever is FASST 6014FS that now is discontinued. Should it work with 6014FS?

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I use the MPDX with the futaba PCM receiver. Should work on the 6014 also
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I use the MPDX with the futaba PCM receiver. Should work on the 6014 also
On 2.4G and 14ch it works only with the new 6014HS - not with the older FS version. Have tried.
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I use the MPDX with the futaba PCM receiver. Should work on the 6014 also
Works only with the new 6014HS - not with the older FS version. Have tried.
I have sent a mail to Futaba Tech Support.

Lets wait their answer.

To me for now, 2 more channels are enough so If I could use the 14 channels of my 6014FS receiver witn my 12FGA with software update, is OK

I dont know if just with updating the software in Futaba web page is enough for taking advantage of 14 channels receiver with 12FGA transmitter or if it requires a special software upgrade from Futaba.

I also sent a mail to tech support
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The fact that the 12FG is a 14 channel set is one of the best kept secrets. I have no idea why Futaba did not publicise it more. The first 12 channels are proportional but the 2 channels 13 and 14 are digital ie they are on/off. On one of my planes I needed to use them and plugged electronic valves into 13 and 14 as they work fine with on off signal. The channels on the Tx are just the last 2 Aux channels after you have allocated everything else. It needs no updates or purchases to work. If you are unsure then plug in 2 spare servos into channels 13 and 14 and see how they work. (Channels 13 and 14 are under the bank of vertical slots.)

If you do get the software upgrade you can name all the Aux functions which is handy when you use all 14 channels. Of course the channels 13 and 14 can be assigned to any switch.

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...........The fact that the 12FG is a 14 channel set is one of the best kept secrets. I have no idea why Futaba did not publicise it more.

I'm a JR flier myself and my only dealings with Futaba are when setting up planes i build for others but IIRC the 12fg is only 14 channels when using the TM 14 FASST module.
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Ok but I see 4 available aux channels after the first proportional 12?

I think their called VC..
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Guillermo

The fact that the 12FG is a 14 channel set is one of the best kept secrets. I have no idea why Futaba did not publicise it more. The first 12 channels are proportional but the 2 channels 13 and 14 are digital ie they are on/off. On one of my planes I needed to use them and plugged electronic valves into 13 and 14 as they work fine with on off signal. The channels on the Tx are just the last 2 Aux channels after you have allocated everything else. It needs no updates or purchases to work. If you are unsure then plug in 2 spare servos into channels 13 and 14 and see how they work. (Channels 13 and 14 are under the bank of vertical slots.)

If you do get the software upgrade you can name all the Aux functions which is handy when you use all 14 channels. Of course the channels 13 and 14 can be assigned to any switch.

John
Hey John, thanks very much for your useful comment.BTW, I am a regukar reader of your RCJI magazine articles

I will try at noon and this aftrernoon or tonight I will post my results.

Very nice thread,

Thanks again.
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...........The fact that the 12FG is a 14 channel set is one of the best kept secrets. I have no idea why Futaba did not publicise it more.

I'm a JR flier myself and my only dealings with Futaba are when setting up planes i build for others but IIRC the 12fg is only 14 channels when using the TM 14 FASST module.
Fortunately mine is FASST
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Hello,

I am the owner of a T12FG and yes it is a 14 channels radio as the T14MZ. The channels 13 and 14 are named DG1 and DG2.
I use 13 channels with my Harpoon 2.
I do not know why Futaba kept secret this information.
Best regards,

Alain


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