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Old 10-23-2009 | 01:00 PM
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HI all, when a small airport has Jet A that has expired, is it still OK for our turbines.Any one used expired Jet A.
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Old 10-23-2009 | 01:41 PM
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Why is it "expired"? Did they abandon the tank and are not pumping into aircraft anymore? Did they stop doing the QC tests? I am just interested since making "expired" fuel available or leaving it in the tank for dispensing would be a giant liability issue at an airport!

Not knowing why they have labeled it "expired" makes it hard to know if it would be OK.

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Old 10-23-2009 | 04:28 PM
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Pete,

Last year we got some Jet-A that was "expired" (was drained from an aircraft for servicing). This fuel sat around in some drums for a while before I go ahold of it.

I ran all of the fuel thru a paint strainer and then pumped it thru a diesel filter with a water removal element into clean jugs.

I ran this fuel for the entire season this year and had no problems with it.

The main thing is to make sure you filter it well and make sure there's no water in it. If water gets in Jet A it will start to grow algae.

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Old 10-23-2009 | 04:30 PM
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If it's clear with no suspension, it should be ok. Just make sure it's clear. Watch your stats on your hand held the first time through and if all looks the same. Go for it.
Old 10-23-2009 | 05:50 PM
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Actually a good question Pete, I'm involved with the airport that is trying to get rid of it, my understanding is for full scale it has a life expectancy in the tank, no diffrent than gasoline. I'm going to say 6 months I may be wrong. After that they are not allowed to sell it as aviation fuel.

We have 1900 litres to remove, the airport is no longer going to sell Jet-A due to reduced jet traffic..(none) except us the Fuel is less than a year old for and is in a proper aviation fuel dispensing tank and pumping system.

Any other experiences or technical knowlege would be great to hear.

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Old 10-23-2009 | 06:22 PM
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6 Month's!!!! Ha. Pete, Get all the blue plastic 55 gal barrels you can and several good inline paper filters. Get you some marine additives and go to it. Wish I lived close to a situation like that.
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HI all, are their commercially available filter/driers for diesel/kerosene.
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Hi Pete,

I use a water seperator/filter like this.

http://www.mrfunnel.com/Mr._Funnel/Models.html

http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Funnel-Fuel...6343945&sr=8-3

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Pete,
You answered all the questions I had about why, etc. Get as much as you can and can safely store. Be careful and just because its cheep, don't put your home, etc. at risk. Some homeowners' insurance policies don't payout when they find you had 50 gallons of JetA that played a part in the fire.[:@]

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Last year we got some Jet-A that was "expired" (was drained from an aircraft for servicing).
Same deal for me. I went to buy some fuel at the local airport & the same story, drained from an old Convair that
started leaking when they filled it up.

Much cheaper, no reciept, I guess the money went in the christmas fund! - John.
Old 10-24-2009 | 07:22 AM
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Believe it or not some automotive oil filters have a pretty low micron count and a remote mount oil filter kit is pretty cheap. The online marine (boat) stores also have fuel filters that will work.

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Old 10-24-2009 | 10:56 AM
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Hi all, 90% of the Kero I been using has come from our local Canadian Tire store, it is expensive, but I know their is no moisture inside. Just to check it, I put it in the freezer, no ice crystals atoll.
I know a lot of guys, get their Kero from under ground tanks at their local gas station, makes me wonder how much moisture , their getting in their fuel.
1- a filter/drier would be good
2- a test strip, if available, would give a OK use it
Any other idea"s
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Above ground tanks are the best. Underground tanks collect more moisture and have allot more problems with microbial growth. You will have no problem using it. To check it for water just let it sit then look at the bottom the water is heavier than the fuel and it will settle to the bottom no need to freeze it and stuff. Every time we defueled planes I remember a few of the pilots used to come up with F350s and take it all right out of the pipe we pumped it out of and all they used was a filter on the pump that attached to the fuel tank and they would have diesel for months.All they did was add a little oil to it. You will have no problems with it just filter it.
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HI all, are their commercially available filter/driers for diesel/kerosene.
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Pete, I bought my filter from Princess Auto. It's designed to filter diesel but works fine on Kero/JetA. When I bought it there were 2 different elements available - one for water removal so check if you go to buy one. I was lucky in that we had a spare pump at work that I was able to repair and use for the transfer pump.

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