looking to get a tubine jet
02-20-2010 | 11:41 AM
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looking to get a tubine jet
hey guys would like your imput on getting a turbine and yes i have flown ductedfans and warbirds heavy and light here are my options looking at dv8r single turbine med to largest power plant , cf uerosport single on the larger tubine side ,or go scale which i like more and wait for skymaster a10 twin turbine
i do airshows and plan for it to be going there
thanks for your time
i do airshows and plan for it to be going there
thanks for your time
02-20-2010 | 12:10 PM
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From: BarranquillaAtlantico, COLOMBIA
RE: looking to get a tubine jet
ORIGINAL: turboratt
hey guys would like your imput on getting a turbine and yes i have flown ductedfans and warbirds heavy and light here are my options looking at dv8r single turbine med to largest power plant , cf uerosport single on the larger tubine side ,or go scale which i like more and wait for skymaster a10 twin turbine
i do airshows and plan for it to be going there
thanks for your time
hey guys would like your imput on getting a turbine and yes i have flown ductedfans and warbirds heavy and light here are my options looking at dv8r single turbine med to largest power plant , cf uerosport single on the larger tubine side ,or go scale which i like more and wait for skymaster a10 twin turbine
i do airshows and plan for it to be going there
thanks for your time
If you want a trainer, get a Boomerang.
There are some other nice scale and trainer jets but I have no experience with them. Wait until this thread run a little bit......<br type="_moz" />
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02-20-2010 | 03:55 PM
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RE: looking to get a tubine jet
Go to BVM Get a bob cat and a jet cat P-80.
I kno I kno , they are too expensivde, But it's your first one and it will spoil you for all the others out there.
I can gaurentee that.
I kno I kno , they are too expensivde, But it's your first one and it will spoil you for all the others out there.
I can gaurentee that.
02-20-2010 | 06:52 PM
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RE: looking to get a tubine jet
If you will do a search, you will find hundreds of opinions.
Most importantly is to consider the field you will fly from, and if grass or asphalt, and if you are hard over for scale or sport.
I loved the boomerang elan. it was a great all around plane.
Most importantly is to consider the field you will fly from, and if grass or asphalt, and if you are hard over for scale or sport.
I loved the boomerang elan. it was a great all around plane.
02-20-2010 | 07:21 PM
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Most importantly is to consider the field you will fly from, and if grass or asphalt, and if you are hard over for scale or sport.
Most importantly is to consider the field you will fly from, and if grass or asphalt, and if you are hard over for scale or sport.
I agree here. I had/have a boomerang for my first jet. Scale planes don't take off so well from the Grass field we have So I am limited to Sport Jets with
Trailing link gear. Not that thats a bad thing I am not to into scale planes
02-27-2010 | 02:57 PM
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RE: looking to get a tubine jet
well guys thanks for all your imput my two chioces are now a erosport with smoke and the new skymaster a-10 the ground will be ashalt or concrete just waiting to see the new a-10 flying from them
but thanks again for your imput
but thanks again for your imput
03-02-2010 | 08:42 AM
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RE: looking to get a tubine jet
ORIGINAL: Guillermo Ibanez
If you want scale, get a Skymaster F-16 1/8
If you want a trainer, get a Boomerang.
There are some other nice scale and trainer jets but I have no experience with them. Wait until this thread run a little bit......<br type=''_moz'' />
If you want scale, get a Skymaster F-16 1/8
If you want a trainer, get a Boomerang.
There are some other nice scale and trainer jets but I have no experience with them. Wait until this thread run a little bit......<br type=''_moz'' />
In short, can anyone chime in as to why an F-16 is a good candidate for first or trainer turbine jet?
Thanks,
-Jorden
03-02-2010 | 02:58 PM
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RE: looking to get a tubine jet
I've never understood why people think F-16's are good beginner/trainer jets. I don't agree with that at all and I would recommend an Elan or Reaction as a first jet. The Bobcat and Bandit ARF are relatively easy to land as well. The Viper would be a great first jet too it lands so slow and flies on rails. For your very first jet I would go with the Boomerang line or Reaction, DV8R, or Turbinator.
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03-02-2010 | 03:24 PM
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RE: looking to get a tubine jet
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I've often seen here on RCU where folks recommend an F-16 as a first, or even as a trainer turbine jet. Is that realistic? Excuse me if that is a stupid question. I (visually) don't see a F-16 as a trainer, but I'm no expert. And knowing that the full-sized F-16 was ''intentionally designed to be slightly aerodynamically unstable'', it makes me wonder if that tendency was transferred to R/C models. I know that typically the full-sized vs models don't fly the same, still wondering though.
In short, can anyone chime in as to why an F-16 is a good candidate for first or trainer turbine jet?
Thanks,
-Jorden
ORIGINAL: Guillermo Ibanez
If you want scale, get a Skymaster F-16 1/8
If you want a trainer, get a Boomerang.
There are some other nice scale and trainer jets but I have no experience with them. Wait until this thread run a little bit......<br type=''_moz'' />
If you want scale, get a Skymaster F-16 1/8
If you want a trainer, get a Boomerang.
There are some other nice scale and trainer jets but I have no experience with them. Wait until this thread run a little bit......<br type=''_moz'' />
In short, can anyone chime in as to why an F-16 is a good candidate for first or trainer turbine jet?
Thanks,
-Jorden
The F-16 is very stable, almost impossible to stall (but it will!), virtually tip-stall proof, and flies very well at medium speed. It is also simple to setup and looks good.
The boomerang, Elan, etc are deffienetly easier to fly. I would reccomend those to someone whose never flown a Ducted Fan. But if you do have some experience, you will do fine with the F-16.
The BARF flies great but a typical rookie repair is $250 +. Not only that, given the right powerplant you can loose sight of it in 3 seconds. On the other hand, it would take an obnoxious amount of thrust to push an F-16 past say 170 mph, where the BARF can easily cruise at that speed. I own and fly both. F-16 is mt everyday beater...........the BARF is only for special events.
03-02-2010 | 04:50 PM
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Jorden, the full scale F-16 is unstable because of the AFT CG. If you tried to fly it manually you'd be flying a very tail heavy jet. Then you move the CG fwd and v'oila.....you have a very forgiving flying machine.
The F-16 is very stable, almost impossible to stall (but it will!), virtually tip-stall proof, and flies very well at medium speed. It is also simple to setup and looks good.
The boomerang, Elan, etc are deffienetly easier to fly. I would reccomend those to someone whose never flown a Ducted Fan. But if you do have some experience, you will do fine with the F-16.
The BARF flies great but a typical rookie repair is $250 +. Not only that, given the right powerplant you can loose sight of it in 3 seconds. On the other hand, it would take an obnoxious amount of thrust to push an F-16 past say 170 mph, where the BARF can easily cruise at that speed. I own and fly both. F-16 is mt everyday beater...........the BARF is only for special events.
Jorden, the full scale F-16 is unstable because of the AFT CG. If you tried to fly it manually you'd be flying a very tail heavy jet. Then you move the CG fwd and v'oila.....you have a very forgiving flying machine.
The F-16 is very stable, almost impossible to stall (but it will!), virtually tip-stall proof, and flies very well at medium speed. It is also simple to setup and looks good.
The boomerang, Elan, etc are deffienetly easier to fly. I would reccomend those to someone whose never flown a Ducted Fan. But if you do have some experience, you will do fine with the F-16.
The BARF flies great but a typical rookie repair is $250 +. Not only that, given the right powerplant you can loose sight of it in 3 seconds. On the other hand, it would take an obnoxious amount of thrust to push an F-16 past say 170 mph, where the BARF can easily cruise at that speed. I own and fly both. F-16 is mt everyday beater...........the BARF is only for special events.
Thanks again,
-Jorden
03-02-2010 | 04:58 PM
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Yah but visibility wise the F-16 is much harder to see don't you guys agree? It takes a heck of a lot more room to land as well.
Yah but visibility wise the F-16 is much harder to see don't you guys agree? It takes a heck of a lot more room to land as well.
With a 5-10 kt headwind, you can land an F-16 in 150 ft or less. A lot of guys try landing it like a BARF or a Bobcat, with wings almsot flat........you can but it will be hot. If you do it right, by keeping a 5-10 degree positive AOA, you can it decelerate, descend and flare to a very slow landing.
Again, if you have experience you can use it as a first jet...............but still nothing coampares to the ease of flying or a Jetmach or a Boomerang.
I flew Ducted Fans for 2 years before jumping into a Turbine converted BVM Maverick (nice flying but not a trainer by any means) and then to a Cermark F-16. I did have experience on DF F-16's, but none of them flew or landed as nice as the turbine F-16's I've owned.
