P70SE or P100
 

Do you guys think JetCat is going to make p70SE or is it going to be replaced with the p100? I was told both p60 and p70 are going to be replaced with the p100 but then again we can't get no accurate info on the p100 release. Some one please shed some light on this!.

Thanks

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The P60 will not be replaced it will be made for the indefinite future as for the P100 it will hopefully released in early 2011. We will be taking pre-orders for the P100 hopefully in late January. I am expecting to have one for Demo very soon

RE: P70SE or P100
 

I have always been told that due to the design of the P-70 it is really not possible to make it into an SE version, so I doubt you will ever see one. The spool up time has always been the slowest in the Jetcat family of turbines and in order to make it an SE comparable to rest of the product line I expect would be difficult.

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P-60 No changes planned. P-70 is going away.Scotty

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Sounds great! Henry, can you confirm if the p100 is the same size as the p70 diameter and length wise.?

Gary, I'm new in the turbine world, actually last Sunday was the first time I got fly my shock jet all day, I started about 3 months ago, well tried anyway, but was not able to fly because the turbine I was going to use, never worked the right way, I got tired or trying with that turbine and decided to buy a p60se from Henry, and I'll tell you this just like I told my flying buddy who also just started in the turbines, after buying my first jet-cat and seeing how good it runs I can't see myself buying another turbine in the near future that is not a JetCat.

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The P100 case diameter is the same as the P70 but it is a little smaller in length and it also weighs less. The turbine will have a few extra lb. more than the P70.

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sounds good! do you have any numbers on the Thrust lb? is it going to be more than the P80SE?

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well specifics of the engine Jet cat at this time does not want to release but as soon as we get the http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f.../thumbs_up.giffrom them I will give you guys all the info you request. Merry Christmas

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That shouldn't be too hard to figure out. The naming convention most turbine manufacturers use when introducing an engine is indicative of its thrust in newtons. So I would expect a P-100 to be rated at 100 newtons, or 22 pounds.

RE: P70SE or P100
 

That shouldn't be too hard to figure out. The naming convention most turbine manufacturers use when introducing an engine is indicative of its thrust in newtons. So I would expect a P-100 to be rated at 100 newtons, or 22 pounds.

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I was thinking that also, but then we have the P80 in the 22LBS so would they discontinue the P80se also? hmm another mystery[sm=72_72.gif]

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I guess by logic the P-100 should fall somewhere between the P-80 @ 22 lbs and the P-120 @ 28.5 lbs.

Kenrico, since you just started flying turbines I doubt you remember, but the P-80 was a 17lb thrust turbine at one time. Jetcat made improvements and the P80 went to 18lbs, then 19lbs, and up to 22lbs where it is at now. The great thing is that the P-80 has remained just as reliable as it has always been even though the power has increased by five pounds over the years.

I would imagine the P-60 will be around for a long time because of the segment of the market it fits. I have owned several P-60's over the years and they little jewels. One of my favorite turbines.

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I'm taking the P120-SX out of my Bandit and putting it in my new F-5. I'm counting on the P-100 coming out soon because that's what I want to put in the Bandit. The P-100 should be the PERFECT powerplant for a Bandit. I can't wait!

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Gary, thanks! for the history of the P80, you are correct I didn't know that, i was assuming the difference between the p80 and p80se was just throttle response. I must agree with you a 100% on the P60se being a little jewel. after the experience i had with an other brand turbine for the last 3 months and now owning a P60se i must say JetCat is my favorite and will have my business as far as i can, this p60se was 100% plug n play. I flew it the first time on Sunday and got 6 flights, didn't get anymore because of windy conditions. but it is a total trouble free Turbine not one adjustment needed. I Totally recommend a P60se for beginners.

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Funny when I first started inquiring on RC Jets and turbines a year ago, I was told that I would be limited on airframe choices for the P60SE (which I had just purchased!) making me believe that I made a mistake! Now, I see a resurgence in their popularity, with the Tornado, and other airplanes being designed around them... kinda glad I got a proven powerplant for my first turbine;-) Good to hear the P60se will remain... now what to power my TamJets A4 with...hmmmm????
Z

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Funny when I first started inquiring on RC Jets and turbines a year ago, I was told that I would be limited on airframe choices for the P60SE (which I had just purchased!) making me believe that I made a mistake! Now, I see a resurgence in their popularity, with the Tornado, and other airplanes being designed around them... kinda glad I got a proven powerplant for my first turbine;-) Good to hear the P60se will remain... now what to power my TamJets A4 with...hmmmm????
Z

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if you look on youtube you will see there's a lot of different models flying on P60s, there's even a video with a guy flying a Boomerang Sprint with a P60 and that's a big airframe. but the p60 gets her off the ground, yes it may take longer take-off runs n all but it still flys !

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[link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOQJ36TyUUc[/link]

here the video I'm talking about

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Cool! Thanks Kenrico... actually, I was thinking more like a BVM Bobcat or Bandit for my P60SE, but went for the Tornado cause of the smoking price;-)
Z

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Cool! I went with the Shock Jet first but have a Tornado on order also. the Tornado would be my second Jet.

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I actually got the TJ A4 as my first jet, but recently purchased a Tornado, which will actually fly prior to my A4;-)
...or at least, that's the plan...
Z

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Gary, i went over n read you post again, now i have another question. if you say or assume by logic the p100 would drop in between 22 and 28lbs, and the p70 is being discontinued what is going to fill in 17lbs gap?? If it is true that the p70 is going to be discontinued, and the p100 is the same size as the p70 like Henry said, would you guys agree with me that the p100 would be somewhat a 2 in 1 Turbine? what i mean by 2 in 1 is that we would have say a 25lbs turbine the same size as a 17lbs turbine, in other words we would have a turbine that can be put in a bigger jet for its thrust but can also be used in smaller trainer jets because of its small size and being able to limit it down to 17lbs.
hope i explained myself clear enough for you guys[sm=confused.gif]

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The only problem I can envisage is the residue thrust levels at tick over if the P100 is put into a jet that is small for the thrust levels, unless you have airbrakes that will slow it down a lot, the maximum thrust is not a problem with a JetCat, as the Pitot tube attachment can be set to limit the top speed, keeping the maximum thrust for the up lines, it would be great fun.

Mike

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I have been told the P-100 will be producing 29lbs thrust, that would be an awesome size/thrust motor imo.
Vin...

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Hi Vin:

29 lbs might be elfin magic if in fact, case size is not increased......installed thrust in my BARF/P-70 with bypass is 16.5-17.0 lbs on my fish scale at 70-80 deg.......that would mean another 12 lbs of thrust from presumed new compressor/diffuser/combustor design.

The guys at Wren have succeeded in going from 70 newts in the SS to 100 in the same case and same Max RPM.....I suspect the P-100 will be similar.....even at 22 lbs, if they improve the spool time so it is more like the 120/160 SE/SX models, they will have winner.

Merry Christmas to you and Joe.....

TA

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Sam to you Tom...btw i got that figure from Bob Wilcox some time back ;)
Vin...