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If I had the money to fly jets I wouldn't give a sh*t what the FAA says.
Enough is enough with all these Wall Street bailouts of criminal stockbrokers, banks and all the other a-h*les we're supporting. DON'T STOP FLYING JETS, TELL THE FAA TO GO STUFF IT !!!! |
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For me, it is time....I have been flying so much for work that by the time i sold my Super Bandit, i hadn't flown it for 7 months. When i am home, i want to be home (with the family, not in a hotel room and not out at the field)- because lord knows that will be the one weekend i have home before heading out on the road again........I haven't "left" the hobby, but merely taking a break until i have more time on my hands to share it between the hobby and the family;)
For other people, i can only imagine it is the economy....people have to work more and more while getting paid the same to ensure they have a job. There is less time for them and they are fearful of what may come in the near future. |
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I almost got out of jets last year when we lost our closest jet-friendly airfield (2 hours away). This year I have less time because of business school and a demanding job, but I've resigned to flying once every 6-8 weeks at a field that is a 3 hours away. [:@]
Nick, have you flown from the old air club runway on Travis? I heard of some folks flying there. |
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Hey D- yes i do still fly out there, it is not turbine friendly-only electrics (and 2.4ghz). It is a 2,000 ft long strip but just doesn't have the airspace for turbines. Was thinking a while back of getting a RTF electra or such to fly out there and see how it goes, but never got around to it.......BEEN SO DAMNED BUSY
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I'll give you a shout the next time I am at Travis. We can do hot laps with some foam. :D
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cool man! it is fun out there....
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ORIGINAL: YellowAircraft I always wonder what people who actually live under real dictatorships think of us when we talk like this. Over here, when our 'side' loses an election, we call the other guys dictators and socialists and such. Only when the shoe fits. |
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ORIGINAL: YellowAircraft Marty, Don't read more into that than there is. Of course the third term thing is ridiculous. The only thing more ridiculous than that was his explanation as to why it was necessary. Term limits are there for a reason, and they should be left alone...period. The 'sides' thing wasn't in response to what time frame he referred to (although I have a feeling it was referring to '06), it was to the use of the term ''dictatorship.'' I think it's not only silly to think of our country that way, but very insensitive and disrespectful to people who ACTUALLY have to live their lives under that kind of oppression and are not just whining. I hear and read that kind of talk every day and I think it is yet another thing that makes us Americans look really stupid in the eyes of the rest of the world. Flame suit on. We'll be right there with those people very quickly if people stick their heads in the sand and think when speaking ones mind based on the actions of certain peoples it's not PC to do so. I guess the revisionist version of history that is prevalent now has taken a strong hold on some people. I call it how it is based on peoples actions. Requesting and OFF switch for the internet, wanting to regulate free speech on the internet and over the air waves and on cable, and forcing people to buy health care are just three small examples of dictatorial actions that have been taken by "one side" as you would put it. Sorry if anyone gets offended. I fought for people freedoms as read in the Constitution. It just bothers me that there are people out there so willing to be so reckless with my freedom in return. |
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ORIGINAL: CowboyLifesaver I guess the revisionist version of history that is prevalent now has taken a strong hold on some people. I call it how it is based on peoples actions. Requesting and OFF switch for the internet, wanting to regulate free speech on the internet and over the air waves and on cable, and forcing people to buy health care are just three small examples of dictatorial actions that have been taken by ''one side'' as you would put it. Sorry if anyone gets offended. I fought for people freedoms as read in the Constitution. It just bothers me that there are people out there so willing to be so reckless with my freedom in return. Well, I think we can at least agree that people tend to perceive 'facts' in the way that best fits their viewpoint. That's the state of human nature and affairs, yes? You mention the Constitution, but I have a feeling that I could probably cite lots of stuff in it that you would either strongly disagree with or be quite shocked to find out was in there. Many people who fought for peoples' freedom before you (and even alongside you) disagree with you politically, and their viewpoints are no less valid than yours just because of that disagreement. Speaking of agreement, I couldn't agree more on the revisionist history thing! I recently heard from Michelle Bachman that the Founding Fathers fought tirelessly against slavery; that the Civil War is being referred to again in new textbooks as "The War of Northern Aggression"; and so on... We could go back and forth on this stuff all day, but what's the point? At some point you just gotta agree to disagree and hopefully go fly something. :) |
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ORIGINAL: YellowAircraft ORIGINAL: CowboyLifesaver I guess the revisionist version of history that is prevalent now has taken a strong hold on some people. I call it how it is based on peoples actions. Requesting and OFF switch for the internet, wanting to regulate free speech on the internet and over the air waves and on cable, and forcing people to buy health care are just three small examples of dictatorial actions that have been taken by ''one side'' as you would put it. Sorry if anyone gets offended. I fought for people freedoms as read in the Constitution. It just bothers me that there are people out there so willing to be so reckless with my freedom in return. Well, I think we can at least agree that people tend to perceive 'facts' in the way that best fits their viewpoint. That's the state of human nature and affairs, yes? You mention the Constitution, but I have a feeling that I could probably cite lots of stuff in it that you would either strongly disagree with or be quite shocked to find out was in there. Many people who fought for peoples' freedom before you (and even alongside you) disagree with you politically, and their viewpoints are no less valid than yours just because of that disagreement. Speaking of agreement, I couldn't agree more on the revisionist history thing! I recently heard from Michelle Bachman that the Founding Fathers fought tirelessly against slavery; that the Civil War is being referred to again in new textbooks as ''The War of Northern Aggression''; and so on... We could go back and forth on this stuff all day, but what's the point? At some point you just gotta agree to disagree and hopefully go fly something. :) Marty |
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ORIGINAL: afterburner You've been watching too much Chris ''thrill up my leg'' Matthews. She said forefathers and forebears. Not Founding Fathers. Marty LOL, Nice try. If I've been watching too much of something, it would have to be too much Youtube. Unfortunately, sometimes those pesky video cameras (with that pesky audio) work, and people can't just come in here and say someone said whatever you would like them to have said instead of what they actually said. Yes, in one speech she did say "forebearers", but only right after saying "the very founders who wrote those documents." She reiterated that same speech at several venues and twice said "Founding Fathers." Look it up (it aint that hard...). :eek: |
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ORIGINAL: YellowAircraft ORIGINAL: afterburner You've been watching too much Chris ''thrill up my leg'' Matthews. She said forefathers and forebears. Not Founding Fathers. Marty LOL, Nice try. If I've been watching too much of something, it would have to be too much Youtube. Unfortunately, sometimes those pesky video cameras (with that pesky audio) work, and people can't just come in here and say someone said whatever you would like them to have said instead of what they actually said. Yes, in one speech she did say ''forebearers'', but only right after saying ''the very founders who wrote those documents.'' She reiterated that same speech at several venues and twice said ''Founding Fathers.'' Look it up (it aint that hard...). :eek: |
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G4,
That's funny :) Thing is, I don't really think this is a case of semantics. The context is important here, and when you're giving a speech about the Constitution, and mention "the very founders who wrote those documents", that's a lot different than 'forebearers' and 'forefathers.' Those words can refer to people still living. Anyway, semantics can't save that lady. There's tons of youtube that proves she doesn't have even a fourth-grader's grasp on the Constitution or American history, for that matter. So, back to why people are getting out of the hobby? |
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There's tons of youtube that proves she doesn't have even a fourth-grader's grasp on the Constitution or American history, for that matter. Now if that is a definitive basis of a person's knowledge, let's bring on some of Nancy's and Harry's Utube performances! Pathetic! George |
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ORIGINAL: STKNRUD There's tons of youtube that proves she doesn't have even a fourth-grader's grasp on the Constitution or American history, for that matter. Now if that is a definitive basis of a person's knowledge, let's bring on some of Nancy's and Harry's Utube performances! Pathetic! George Yep! You see, when you scratch the surface, you often learn that the 'right v left' and 'liberal v conservative' are mostly artificial divisions. People sometimes have more in common than you assume when you categorize. I'm 100% with you on that one. Although I think both the people you mentioned are astronomically more intelligent (and probably have post-graduate level understandings of the Constitution and U.S. history as opposed to the fourth-grade one), you're right that they've said and proposed stuff so stupid and out-of-touch that anyone with a brain has to wince. Sometimes, I think that's part of being a politician. In my opinion, all of those people 'serve two masters.' Unfortunately, the American people and their best interests are seldom one of those two masters. |
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ORIGINAL: YellowAircraft ORIGINAL: STKNRUD There's tons of youtube that proves she doesn't have even a fourth-grader's grasp on the Constitution or American history, for that matter. Now if that is a definitive basis of a person's knowledge, let's bring on some of Nancy's and Harry's Utube performances! Pathetic! George Yep! You see, when you scratch the surface, you often learn that the 'right v left' and 'liberal v conservative' are mostly artificial divisions. People sometimes have more in common than you assume when you categorize. I'm 100% with you on that one. Although I think both the people you mentioned are astronomically more intelligent (and probably have post-graduate level understandings of the Constitution and U.S. history as opposed to the fourth-grade one), you're right that they've said and proposed stuff so stupid and out-of-touch that anyone with a brain has to wince. Sometimes, I think that's part of being a politician. In my opinion, all of those people 'serve two masters.' Unfortunately, the American people and their best interests are seldom one of those two masters. Personally, I would take a person with a fourth grade education who has common sense over a constitutional lawyer/professor who needs to take an advanced course in knot tying before they can upgrade thier loafers to laced shoes any day of the week. Common sense is hard to come buy these days. Especially in D.C. Marty |
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ORIGINAL: afterburner ORIGINAL: YellowAircraft ORIGINAL: STKNRUD There's tons of youtube that proves she doesn't have even a fourth-grader's grasp on the Constitution or American history, for that matter. Now if that is a definitive basis of a person's knowledge, let's bring on some of Nancy's and Harry's Utube performances! Pathetic! George Yep! You see, when you scratch the surface, you often learn that the 'right v left' and 'liberal v conservative' are mostly artificial divisions. People sometimes have more in common than you assume when you categorize. I'm 100% with you on that one. Although I think both the people you mentioned are astronomically more intelligent (and probably have post-graduate level understandings of the Constitution and U.S. history as opposed to the fourth-grade one), you're right that they've said and proposed stuff so stupid and out-of-touch that anyone with a brain has to wince. Sometimes, I think that's part of being a politician. In my opinion, all of those people 'serve two masters.' Unfortunately, the American people and their best interests are seldom one of those two masters. Personally, I would take a person with a fourth grade education who has common sense over a constitutional lawyer/professor who needs to take an advanced course in knot tying before they can upgrade thier loafers to laced shoes any day of the week. Common sense is hard to come buy these days. Especially in D.C. Marty |
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Yellowaircraft
Let's be clear, I don't agree with you on ANYTHING no matter how deep you "scratch". You got caught miss-quoting her and had to resort to attacking her with a comparison to a 4th grader's knowledge. Typical smear but I am not surprised. |
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ORIGINAL: STKNRUD Yellowaircraft Let's be clear, I don't agree with you on ANYTHING no matter how deep you ''scratch''. You got caught miss-quoting her and had to resort to attacking her with a comparison to a 4th grader's knowledge. Typical smear but I am not surprised. LOL, Ok. Have it your way :D May I humbly suggest, though, that you youtube it and see for yourself. If, after that, you still think I misquoted her, then.....well..... I won't be too shocked. |
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ORIGINAL: afterburner Personally, I would take a person with a fourth grade education who has common sense over a constitutional lawyer/professor who needs to take an advanced course in knot tying before they can upgrade thier loafers to laced shoes any day of the week. Common sense is hard to come buy these days. Especially in D.C. Marty Maybe. If we're talking about politics and leaders, sometimes people need to have knowledge, awareness and acumen on things that are far from common. World affairs and managing the trickiness that is civic leadership/politics are sometimes more than a 'common sense' matter. Elected officials, for example, often hold sway over aspects of our lives that are directly effected by the precedence of law. I'd just as soon have someone who understands the law and its historical/social impact and implications doing that than some bumper-sticker spouter who quite literally can't differentiate the Constitution from the Declaration of Independence. |
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This is a RC Jet Forum. Why can't you keep your liberal politics out of it?
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ORIGINAL: RLeeds This is a RC Jet Forum. Why can't you keep your liberal politics out of it? Gimme a break. We're people talking. Have you ever asked someone in here why they don't keep their 'conservative' politics out of it? Why is my point of view less welcome than others'? Because I differ with the popular opinion in here? That's fair.... By the way, I don't mind talking politics at all, but you might notice that when I do in these forums, it's usually in response to someone else getting 'political.' |
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I started this thread to have opinions as to why are people getting
out , and possible reasons. I agree with Ken, THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL THREAD. SO, DON'T MIX IT. If not. I would suggest to close it. ENT |
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I believe E.N.T. sum's it Up . It's NOT Political thread. Semper Fi Joe |
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