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Dr Honda 10-23-2013 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Wclays (Post 11645243)
I have a few RAMs and they still run fine.

I have converted most of them to the Xicoy ecu and makes them even better.

Clay

I set up a buddy's RAM with a Xicoy.


Anyway... I just test ran the engine I bought... and it runs as easy, and as smooth as any of my other engines. BUT... it has the new ECU from Bob Price. (version R03B) It's an all new software package, and a few hardware changes within the ECU. I set it to all the suggested settings, other than the start gas... and it started without a hitch.

On the start gas... I ran it up to 10. (that's 100%) The reason for that is... I use the regulated valve that Dreamworks sells... so I don't need the ECU to regulate the pressure.


If there are any other guys running RAM's, and are thinking about having Bob upgrade your ECU... I'd suggest it.

F86_SABRE 10-23-2013 09:01 PM

OK what does one need to change to convert to the Xicoy ECU?

Ruizmilton 10-23-2013 09:15 PM

On autostart engines you just need to install the new hall sensor (bought with Xicoy ECU) under the intake cover and discard the old one, on airstart engines, unless you are adding an electric starter and a spinner nut with a magnet, It may not be worth it, but can still be done...

Jgwright 10-24-2013 12:08 AM

I have helped convert a Ram 1000 to Xicoy ECU and as well as my own Sprite engines I currently have a Simjet 3000 With Kero start plug running Xicoy ECU and a gas start Xicoy on a Frank Turbine. Any turbine will run on a Xicoy unit with a little adjustment of the parameters. You need a magnet in the spinner nut (from Xicoy) and the hall effect pick up.

John

Dr Honda 10-24-2013 02:02 AM

here's the basic kit:

http://www.xicoy.com/catalog/product...8q9jc828qg0f96


But like I was saying... the new ECU from Bob Price is a great upgrade.

F86_SABRE 10-24-2013 03:09 AM

Am I correct to understand that given the original RAM1000 starter may not have been up to the mark then this would need replacing? If in the affirmative then wouldn't the front cover also need replacing? Just a few thoughts here. Thanks for the feedback.

Dr Honda 10-24-2013 03:20 AM

From my understanding......


The original starters would die prematurely, because the ECU would hit it with full voltage. The newer ECU's have a soft start (slowly ramps up the power) so the starter isn't abused so badly.

rjpmodel 10-25-2013 05:05 AM

The slow startup was implemented when the more powerful speed300 motor replaced the original start motor on the 750P and 1000 to make a smoother,slower, consistent and controlable startup.t

Dr Honda 10-27-2013 03:25 PM

Hi Guys,

Just a followup to all of this.

Here is a test run of the engine with Bob's newest ECU. (R03B) It seems to run a RAM engine, as well as any modern engine/ECU combo. I ran it a total of 4 times on the stand... and each start was just as easy, and smooth as the last.

FYI... this is on all the "Stock" settings from Bob. My only change was to set the start gas to 10, because I use straight propane, with a regulator valve. If you use powermax, you will probably set it to 6.

(if you set the vid to HD, you can read the data terminal)



<a href="http://youtu.be/5JIE5rIhSPE" target="_blank"> http://youtu.be/5JIE5rIhSPE

sirrom 10-27-2013 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by F86_SABRE (Post 11645613)
Am I correct to understand that given the original RAM1000 starter may not have been up to the mark then this would need replacing? If in the affirmative then wouldn't the front cover also need replacing? Just a few thoughts here. Thanks for the feedback.

Yes you are correct. If you need the RAM1000/750 starter replaced it would require a new front cover. The whole conversion is going to cost you about 375.00 if you have to purchase everything from Carlos. See if you can find a front cover with the X series starter from a second had source. They are rare but can be found.

Patrick

Wclays 10-27-2013 04:08 PM

What does Price charge for his upgraded ECU?

Dr Honda 10-27-2013 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Wclays (Post 11648269)
What does Price charge for his upgraded ECU?


***EDIT***

Bob answered below.

sirrom 10-27-2013 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Wclays (Post 11648269)
What does Price charge for his upgraded ECU?

I think I paid 75-100 for the upgrade from bob price. Then the 375 from carlos.

Patrick

rjpmodel 10-27-2013 07:50 PM

R03B Upgrade for version C02C or newer is $125 and $175 for the real old ones. The older ones need some extra board wiring changes via land cuts and wire jumpers because we did a board update for C02C. The new R03B upgrade uses a new microprocessor plus some other IC changes and total new software. More diagnostic tests from main menu and more programmable parameters. New ECU $285. I can send detailed PDF manual over email if you send me an email at [email protected]. Bob Price, 206 Breakaway Rd, Cedar Park, TX 78613. 512-897-9770

Dr Honda 10-28-2013 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by rjpmodel (Post 11648423)
R03B Upgrade for version C02C or newer is $125 and $175 for the real old ones. The older ones need some extra board wiring changes via land cuts and wire jumpers because we did a board update for C02C. The new R03B upgrade uses a new microprocessor plus some other IC changes and total new software. More diagnostic tests from main menu and more programmable parameters. New ECU $285. I can send detailed PDF manual over email if you send me an email at [email protected]. Bob Price, 206 Breakaway Rd, Cedar Park, TX 78613. 512-897-9770



Thanks for posting the info Bob !

With as well as the new ECU works... and with the nice menu layout... I'm surprised that you haven't made a push to get your ECU's back out into the mainstream.

rjpmodel 10-28-2013 04:17 PM

Tony - thanks for your kind posts about my ecu. I have never advertised the ecu. I have done quite a few of the upgrades over the years and rely on word of mouth from satisfied customers.

fcfanti 02-02-2017 07:38 AM

I know Carlos can service them.... Hi Tony, I know that it this is a old forum but do you have the contact of Carlos... I've a RAM1000 in a good shape but would be nice to have his contact. Thanks. Fabio

Dr Honda 02-02-2017 01:29 PM

I'm not sure if he is still working on them or not. Hopefully someone can answer.

n715tm 02-02-2017 05:10 PM

I just sent my Ram 1000 to Carlos this week. Its currently sitting in a UPS lockbox waiting for him to pickup. Here is his contact info

RTI
5723 SW 149 Ave
Miami, FL 33193
[email protected]

Crazy4Flight 02-02-2017 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by Dr Honda (Post 11643020)
Hi Guys,

I know RAM, at one time, was king of the hill... and then died. But, it amazes me that there is no history, or real info out there, about them. OK... I know Carlos can service them... and still produces his version of the "1000". I also know that Modellbau had their versions of the 500 and 750. And finally, I know Bob Price can service the ECU.


So... does anyone know what the "X" versions were? I knew there was a 500x, but I have just recently stumbled across a few comments about a 1000x. Was this a mechanical upgrade, or just something in the software?

Second... does anyone have a digital copy of the newest RAM manual? I have a paper version of rev.2, but I'd like it in my computer for reference. (I found rev1, and the modellbau manuals)

Thanks


The first RAMs were air start the ECU for those were made by Andy Lowe at Electrodynamics in Michigan. He may have manuals for them.

The 750 auto start I had was fuel thirsty and slow to spool up.


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