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Pttcrisp 04-26-2015 10:01 PM

That Habu is just mental. People don't seem to get the fact that planes usually fly better at the low end of the weight and thrust equation rather than at the overpowered end

DiscoWings 04-26-2015 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by Henke Torphammar (Post 12029473)
It would probably fit but too heavy for my taste. Adding 1kg of thrust for sure, but also adding more than 1kg of weight?!

I found this on facebook, the all mighty Habu with K45 :p

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...b891ba3a9535de

https://scontent-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...a5&oe=559C686D


that thing will turn into a "Habuoken"


http://latenightcereal.com/wordpress...3/hadouken.gif

Quandry 04-27-2015 03:13 AM

My Habu 32 with a p20 was quite the rocket when the fuel was getting low due to lower flying weight. Problematic to take off on grass though and often felt like it did not have enough power when fully loaded. I saw the pics of the K45 Habu and I'm sure that would be one heck of a rush to fly, although gut feeling is that the added weight could make grass takeoff's very hard on the undercarriage and very short flights due to size of fuel load. Probably fine on tarmac??

I saw the M35 at the Jets Munt stand at Jetpower a couple of years back. Similar weight/size to the P20 but an extra 1.5kg of thrust. I think if that turbine ever comes to market I will resurrect my turbine Habu 32 as I've subsequently sold the P20 to help fund other projects.

Would love to see a video of that K45 Habu in action though!!! :)

Henke Torphammar 04-27-2015 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Quandry (Post 12029567)
Similar weight/size to the P20 but an extra 1.5kg of thrust.

Check my chart earlier in this thread for accurat figures :-)

Jgwright 04-27-2015 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Henke Torphammar (Post 12029666)
Check my chart earlier in this thread for accurat figures :-)

If the Kingtech achieves its stated thrust at 45N then it is almost 2 Kg more thrust than the P20 which measured 24.5N.

John

Eddie P 04-27-2015 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by George (Post 12029448)
Looks like it's $1650 according to the website.

Well then, I take back what I said before about little turbines being too much cash, there may be a new day in small turbines then. I had no idea they were going to price the K45 so aggressively.

DrScoles 04-27-2015 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by ltc (Post 12029249)
Will the K45 fit the Mini Avanti S and still balance?
it seems a bit big (thrust and dimensions) from what the photos of this plane look like and I believe Sebart said 20 or 30 size turbine max


Jason asked me to do a build thread on the Mini Avanti and I just ordered this turbine, so I hope it fits...:cool:

George 04-27-2015 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Eddie P (Post 12029789)
Well then, I take back what I said before about little turbines being too much cash, there may be a new day in small turbines then. I had no idea they were going to price the K45 so aggressively.

Eddie,

Double check with Barry to see if that's an Introductory price, but I don't think so.

Eddie P 04-27-2015 11:02 AM

There is an intro price, but the $1650 looks like the street price (non intro price). Even better. Now I may well be scrambling to make some structural changes to a multi engine scratch build I had designed and started building for EDF. Doh!

Pttcrisp 04-27-2015 10:38 PM

If you look at the initial photo's the intake looks an interesting shape and to me the compressor looks quite small for the can size. Anyone else noticed this

tgbhng 04-27-2015 11:10 PM

So, where is the Kingtech Turboprop engine? http://financehotela.com/yellow/images/41.gifhttp://financehotela.com/yellow/images/30.gif

patrnflyr 04-28-2015 03:16 AM

Could someone tell me how these spambots work via PM so I don't hijack the thread. What benefit is it to repeat someone else's line?

Eddie P 04-28-2015 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by Pttcrisp (Post 12030116)
If you look at the initial photo's the intake looks an interesting shape and to me the compressor looks quite small for the can size. Anyone else noticed this

I suspect an optical illusion due to camera angle and distance from the engine when taken. The inlet seems perfectly round but the shadow of the bendex starter makes the bright aluminum shaded in some areas too.

Bravo77 04-28-2015 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by Pttcrisp (Post 12029499)
That Habu is just mental. People don't see to get the fact that planes usually fly better at the low end of the weight a thrust equation rather than at the overpowered end

You guys make such bold statement ,I wonder sometimes , people who fly Rc are supposed be intelligent and sensible to all facets of the hobby and be accommodative
Instead we get statements like the above , guys fly their airplanes however they feel like if they feel like overpowering them it is fine , you choose to fly yours your way that is fine , do not come on the forum and force your opinion on other people , and telling people what you think they get or do not get , make comments that promote the hobby not insult others

Henke Torphammar 04-28-2015 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by Bravo77 (Post 12030187)
You guys make such bold statement ,I wonder sometimes , people who fly Rc are supposed be intelligent and sensible to all facets of the hobby and be accommodative
Instead we get statements like the above , guys fly their airplanes however they feel like if they feel like overpowering them it is fine , you choose to fly yours your way that is fine , do not come on the forum and force your opinion on other people , and telling people what you think they get or do not get , make comments that promote the hobby not insult others

How's your Habu with K100 going :-P

jetster81 04-30-2015 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by DrScoles (Post 12029792)
Jason asked me to do a build thread on the Mini Avanti and I just ordered this turbine, so I hope it fits...:cool:

Really looking forward to this thread Doc, I have the Avanti on order and am interested in the K45 install and performance. Good luck with your project.

jetster81 04-30-2015 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by Pttcrisp (Post 12029499)
That Habu is just mental. People don't see to get the fact that planes usually fly better at the low end of the weight a thrust equation rather than at the overpowered end

Could not agree more.

DrScoles 04-30-2015 05:46 AM

The Avanti and K45 should be here by tomorrow, this should be a pretty quick build. No smoke or VT on this one ;-) I fly off a very rough grass field, my overpowered mid-size avanti takes off in 30 yards. This is why I want the power. And it would be foolish not to cite the price difference between the two turbines. I'll open a separate thread once I get it out and start taking pics.

Seba does not think this turbine is ideal for this plane. It is with full understanding that I am on my own as far as air frame failure. Hopefully, this will provide useful information, good or bad, for everyone who is planning on building one.

Bob_B 04-30-2015 06:18 AM

I don't think you will have an issue with the airframe. Mine is quite strong. The paint work is very well done.

DrScoles 04-30-2015 06:23 AM

Me neither, but gotta follow the rules ;-)

flyinfool1 05-01-2015 10:49 AM

Dang it.
You had to post this right in front of me.......

I have been teetering on the fence between the K60G and a 44 Gold for my Yellow Stingray.
K60G is a lot less money but is heavier and thirstier. The 44 Gold is much lighter and drinks a lot less fuel but costs a lot more.
This new K45 may just be the perfect power choice for this jet on all fronts.

You may have just killed one of my last excuses for procrastinating on starting this build ......
Thanks a lot....... :rolleyes:

Henke Torphammar 05-01-2015 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Bob_B (Post 12031339)
I don't think you will have an issue with the airframe. Mine is quite strong. The paint work is very well done.

Everything rounds up to the personal envelope. If you are a great pilot always landing smooth as Huawei P8 Max there are no problems with a heavier setup. It adds power, it adds speed - to start - landing - and level flight.

I do prefer the lightest possible setup, sacrificing thrust to less weight as I travel allot and do flights from various fileds with very different conditions. Better safe than sorry on a short field. For me lighter is better. For most cheaper is better. For everyone your preference is the best! My advices - your heart! :D

Ragz 05-05-2015 03:57 AM

Hi Henke

I have the Grumania F100 from 5-6 years ago. This has been flown with a MW44 gold.. didn't really enjoy it as it was too heavy. Wondering if I should revive this plane with a T-50 Kolibri?...

Shaun Evans 05-05-2015 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Vincent (Post 12029330)
i flew one with a P60 and it was too heavy. I would go with the lightest motor you can get maybe the 44. I think it would even fly ok on the lambert T35.


Really??

That's the ideal combo IMO. I flew one with a P-80 and THAT was too heavy, but the P-60 powered one was a better, lighter flier (even with external fuel) than the DF one. Mine carried flaps and speed-brakes and still slowed down better than my GDF.

marquisvns 05-05-2015 08:50 PM

Shaun, Vincent thought that K45 and P60 looked the same in size, then claims that they are the same weight when the K45 is indeed lighter.

Barry


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