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Jet20 06-24-2015 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by edwarda10pilot (Post 12060362)
Kris, I hope you don't mind my asking this question but since the A-7's are hard to come by (and I don't have one), how about the K-45 in a JHH F-9 Cougar (which I have NIB) or a JHH A-4 (which I also have)?

Ed

Ed,

I would think with this engine being similar in size and thrust to the MW-44 that it would work quite well in either of those airplanes.


Chris

edwarda10pilot 06-24-2015 01:19 PM

Chris:

Thanks for the reply. I will have to give this some thought.

Ed

gunradd 06-24-2015 01:59 PM

Ed no problem posting here my friend. The K45 will work in most of the airframes using 90mm fans IMO.

The good part about the K45 is its light and all the valves and solenoids are built into it so not allot of mess going on. It will be about a week and a half until I get time to fly this plane but headed to Kentucky next Sunday so Barry and I will be flying this thing allot in 2 weeks.

Bob_B 06-24-2015 02:14 PM

Gun if you need any help putting hours on the the K45. I willing and able! :)

gunradd 06-26-2015 08:00 AM

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Bob see you soon!

A7 is ready for Kentucky. Might do a little weathering on it if I get time. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2105865
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2105866
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2105867

Jet20 06-26-2015 08:47 AM

cool! have fun! :)

trondb 06-30-2015 01:43 PM

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This thread made me pick down my A-7 from the shelf an start plan the bulid. I`ts an old kit version who has piano wire main gear I plan to go the same route and turbine power it and are in need for an upgrade with more rugged scale type gear. Sent JHH an e-mail 3 days ago but has`nt got a reply yet. Looks they are temporary out of stock.
Anyone else have an advice for a set that fits ? I also need the brackets who holds the cylinders for the main gear

Trond Bruun-Olsen
Norway

2 pics of the kit this gear is what I`m looking for
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2106624http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2106625http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2106626

Jet20 06-30-2015 02:26 PM

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Trond,

A kit build, nice! Do you think you will build the leading edge flaps? Regarding gear, I can tell you that my folks don't have any and probably won't anytime soon if at all. However, RC Crafters (http://www.rccrafters.com) has a set available if you wanted to go that route. It's a similar solution to what was supplied with the ARF's. Here's a shot of the 3 gear set.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2106627

FenderBean 06-30-2015 03:31 PM

Wow that's a website I haven't seen, back in 2007 I had them him build me a set of the 1/8th scale f-18 gear for a combat models f-18. Still have the kit and gear. This was going to be my jet fix since they are very scale but I ended up with a turbine instead.

FenderBean 06-30-2015 03:31 PM

Wow that's a website I haven't seen, back in 2007 I had them him build me a set of the 1/8th scale f-18 gear for a combat models f-18. Still have the kit and gear. This was going to be my jet fix since they are very scale but I ended up with a turbine instead.

trondb 07-01-2015 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by Jet20 (Post 12063614)
Trond,

A kit build, nice! Do you think you will build the leading edge flaps? Regarding gear, I can tell you that my folks don't have any and probably won't anytime soon if at all. However, RC Crafters (http://www.rccrafters.com) has a set available if you wanted to go that route. It's a similar solution to what was supplied with the ARF's. Here's a shot of the 3 gear set.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2106627

Thanks Chris ,
Not decided if I´m gonna do the leading edge flaps yet. It`s a bit of hazzle to do , and not sure if it`s worth the job ? :-)
The Rccrafters gear looks nice , will get in contact with them . That`s the route I want to go if it`s available and not too overpriced..

However I found THIS scale gear set , but at near 1300 bucks .. well ? Nicely made thou ...

Trond

Jet20 07-01-2015 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by trondb (Post 12063812)
Thanks Chris ,
Not decided if I´m gonna do the leading edge flaps yet. It`s a bit of hazzle to do , and not sure if it`s worth the job ? :-)
The Rccrafters gear looks nice , will get in contact with them . That`s the route I want to go if it`s available and not too overpriced..

However I found THIS scale gear set , but at near 1300 bucks .. well ? Nicely made thou ...

Trond

Yeah, the matrix stuff is nice, but quite expensive. Looking at the design, the mains look heavy to me given the metal mounting plate, etc. I think the RCCrafters gear will do the job for you and should be a fraction of the cost compared to the Matrix gear.

rhklenke 07-01-2015 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by gunradd (Post 12061546)

I'm *really* looking forward to seeing this fly at Ky Jets. I had one on a Turbax EDF and I know how it flew with that, so a comparison with the K45 powered one will be great. I'm still thinking that the K45 would be an ideal power plant for my Yellow Aircraft A-4 (that I hope to start this winter, maybe...).

Bob

gunradd 07-01-2015 09:53 AM

I will see you soon my friend :) Cant wait to get to Kentucky!!



Originally Posted by rhklenke (Post 12063985)
I'm *really* looking forward to seeing this fly at Ky Jets. I had one on a Turbax EDF and I know how it flew with that, so a comparison with the K45 powered one will be great. I'm still thinking that the K45 would be an ideal power plant for my Yellow Aircraft A-4 (that I hope to start this winter, maybe...).

Bob


essyou35 07-02-2015 07:37 AM

I cant wait to see it either, I love small turbine powered jets!

speed is life 07-13-2015 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by gunradd (Post 12063987)
I will see you soon my friend :) Cant wait to get to Kentucky!!

Kris, Update on your JHI A-7D? How did it go?
- Mike

Joe Westrich 07-13-2015 12:57 PM

I know if flew a couple times.....not sure if there is video out there or not.

rhklenke 07-14-2015 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Westrich (Post 12069466)
I know if flew a couple times.....not sure if there is video out there or not.

I spotted for Chris on one of his flights with the A-7. The K45 pushed it *very* well. He seemed to have a good turn of speed, realistic vertical, and the plane got off the ground in a fairly short time. Overall, the K45 pushed it much better than the E-Turbax setup (10 cells) that I had in mine a few years back. I think I'm going to use this motor in my Yellow A-4...

He had some issues with the airframe itself, but those were not related to the Kingtech motor...

Bob

gunradd 07-14-2015 10:22 AM

Thanks Bob and Joe.

The engine was flawless. Now the aircraft... LOL lots of work to do on it. Gear doors dont work most of the time the electric down and locked gear does not stay down and locked. My eagle tree gyro failed and made the aircraft very hard to fly.I had to hold half stick aileron the entire flight to hold it straight. In the end I will get it all squared away just need some time at my home field to play with it some. I did install new wheels and brakes at the event and also shoved some tygon in the main struts to lift the rear end some since it was sitting way to low.

40 ounces of fuel seemed to be about perfect. I flew 5 mins then landed and had enough to go around left. The Xicoy telemetry worked great and will be using that on more planes now. The little K45 was so quite when it would go by. Ali called it the little guppy. When I get all the problems ironed out and get some real flights with it I will post some video. Dont like posting maidens and untrimmed crappy flights.

Eddie P 07-14-2015 11:17 AM

Well those kinds of maidens and early shake down flights usually end up being turned into well-tuned airplanes a few flights later.

For the record I had an Eagle Tree gyro do the same thing to me for about 15 seconds and then it went back to normal. Since then I've only used it in low cost foamies ever since and of course it's never done it again but I don't trust it in a nice jet. Get another Cortex :) My iGyro 3e's and my one Cortex are four times the gyro that an Eagle Tree is, anyway

Some airplanes roll off the assembly line perfect and others just reveal more work to be done (but turn out to be some of the best planes because at the end of the day they are tuned up perfectly).

K-45 Engine sounds like a winner. What were your flight times set for on that 40 ounce tank and how much were you landing with?

gunradd 07-14-2015 11:33 AM

Eddie I set timer for 5:30 and would land with enough for a go around I would say but not much more. Also this was at a big event and I didn't have a taxi tank and it always took a little bit to taxi out. When I get time I will get better numbers.

speed is life 07-14-2015 01:13 PM

Hi Kris,
The gear doors, especially the mains, are a headache. Very fiddly to get them to work reliably IMO, especially with turbine due to the ram air into the fuselage in a non fully ducted installation.
When I had mine I did not have a gyro and there really were no issues that made me want one. True it would Dutch roll a bit if you got too slow, but it was a great visual indication that you let it get too slow.
Wondering why you had to have so much aileron input?
- Mike

Eddie P 07-14-2015 02:29 PM

I used to feel the same way last year. Gyros are just a personal preference thing that appeal to guys that want to perfect everything including setups and trim outs. The bang for the buck in gyros favors smaller, heavier wing loading planes, especially those with thin airfoils that have a tight sweet spot when you get slower on approach. Body attitude and sink rate are more proactive and better / safer cues for speed and thrust required than dutch roll IMHO anyhow and you can see that trend better with a high quality 3 axis gyro.

gunradd 07-14-2015 03:21 PM

Hey Mike.
I just like having a gyro now guess I am spoiled lol. I had so much roll input because the gyro was not working right. It would not even link up to my laptop and was dead. But it would not let me trim the model out. Barry did the first 2 flights on it and it was working but had gear issues. Then I got it up the next day and the model was way out of trim and I could not trim it out and the gyro was not letting me trim it. First time I have had one do this. I will install cortex inside it most likely or just fly it without. Got 2 other huge projects I need to get going so want to make these fixes and move on fast. Might use a small servo or something for the lower main gear doors. The top doors work fine.


Originally Posted by speed is life (Post 12070031)
Hi Kris,
The gear doors, especially the mains, are a headache. Very fiddly to get them to work reliably IMO, especially with turbine due to the ram air into the fuselage in a non fully ducted installation.
When I had mine I did not have a gyro and there really were no issues that made me want one. True it would Dutch roll a bit if you got too slow, but it was a great visual indication that you let it get too slow.
Wondering why you had to have so much aileron input?
- Mike


Jet20 07-15-2015 06:21 AM

Kris,

Sorry to hear of the gyro and gear issues. I'm sure you'll get it sorted soon enough! Regarding the doors, when I had the turbine in mine, I had a small wire catch on each lower door that would hold the doors closed when the gear was up. The catch would hit against the main landing gear so that they couldn't blow open. With the EDF, it's not an issue. I'm here to help if you need anything.


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